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 Posted:   Dec 21, 2010 - 11:08 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

An audio interview from npr with NFL Films composer Tom Hedden.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7048880


What does Christopher Sampson mean that the N.F.L. Films music wasn't released commercially? Apparently he never heard the "Autumn Thunder" 8 C.D. set.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2010 - 11:09 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

I love this music too. Inspiring and can rouse me no matter how bad the day

I feel the same.

Thanks for posting! Sometimes on this thread I feel like I'm one of the very few here who really understands the impact of this music.

Thanks again.


You definitely get it!!

I knew I'd like from handful of NFL films saw.


If want weird try sam spence sounds on amazon. Weird rock but him



I think I'll pass on the "Weird rock".

Give me some more Autumn Thunder and I'll be a happy man.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2010 - 11:57 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

An audio interview from npr with NFL Films composer Tom Hedden.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7048880


What does Christopher Sampson mean that the N.F.L. Films music wasn't released commercially? Apparently he never heard the "Autumn Thunder" 8 C.D. set.



It's actually a 10 cd set.

A great collection that's still available for around $100.00 on Amazon.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2010 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

I agree with all that Autumn Thunder is a superb collection. As I recall, I had read about it for months and pre-ordered it on Amazon when it came out (2004, I believe). I wish it had even more of Sam Spence's older music (with all due respects to Messrs. Hedden and Robidoux, I enjoy their music also).
I have the original 5 fan LPs from the '70's, and I'm kinda old-school about it.
As others have said, there are many of Sam's cues I'd prefer over some that were included, particularly some that were used in the TV series This Week In Pro Football, and Championship Games Of The NFL. I think some of the best are several cues used in the Super Bowl V Highlights show that didn't make the AT collection.
I've attached a link for anyone interested: http://www.hulu.com/watch/123660/super-bowl-highlights-1971-super-bowl-v-baltimore-colts-vs-dallas-cowboys
Don't get me wrong, I treasure my AT and I appreciate NFL Films for making it! If anyone knows where some of the older Spence cues that weren't included can be found, please post! Thanks! - jack


Jack,

Thanks for posting this. I've been a Colt fan since that very season when I was eight years old, so I'll be checking this out from time to time. I just recently purchased Autumn Thunder, and it's a great set which includes many of my favorites from the old weekly highlight shows. Before I purchased, I read the reviews on Amazon, etc., several of which mentioned that there are still many classic pieces left out. I now understand some of these reviews a little better after stumbling upon this site the other day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cbbyjsg2e0

I was able to quickly recognize about a half dozen or so on this clip that are not on AT or Power and the Glory. I don't mean to steal any of Sam Spence's thunder here, but perhaps many or even most of the missing familiar classics were actually composed by others as it appears that Beverly Hermann and Martha Jane Weber were solidly in the NFL Films mix.

Hope you all enjoy this clip.

RD



I enjoyed the clip.

Thanks for posting it.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2010 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

"Doomsday"

The music of NFL Films and the legendary voice of John Facenda.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRA8nKxxBcY&feature=related

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2010 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

"Lombardi"

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2010 - 9:11 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

"And the Oakland Raiders had a great theme, too."




I always wondered if Spence wrote this piece specifically for the Raiders as their "theme" or if it was just a composition of his they liked and adopted it.

Either way, it's a great piece of music that fits those old Raider teams of the late 60's and early 70's like a glove.



I finally found an answer to my question about the Sam Spence piece that became the "Raiders Theme".

://www.tracksounds.com/specialfeatures/interviews/interview_david_robidoux_2007.htm

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2010 - 10:26 PM   
 By:   Jim Barg   (Member)

I've been going through that NFL Network site on Hulu, and man... I need to get me that set. It's a treat to watch those old films.

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2010 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

There's nothing quite like the music of NFL Films accompanying footage of quarterback Joe Kapp and his Minnesota Vikings in the snow and frigid temperatures of Metropolitan Stadium in the late 1960's.

Football the way it used to be.


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This really is a tremendous montage. You can see that Joe Kapp (#11) had a perpetual limp, even as he lumbers in during the pre-game introductions. And at the 2:09 when he runs roughshod over the defender and it's the defender that goes--and stays--down. Today's QBs would've done a baby slide fifteen yards in advance to avoid taking a hit. Here, Kapp's the one dishing it out.

The whole thing is so theatrical: the imagery of the snow, players covered in mud as to be unrecognizable, the lineman getting set in unison. If this was done in a "major motion picture" people wouldn't believe it.


A video--and a post--so good it bears repeating. For those who despise sports, just pretend you're watching starships, Jedis, and Hobbits and then you'll get into the magic of this music and its wonderful "marriage" to the images. big grin

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2010 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I finally found an answer to my question about the Sam Spence piece that became the "Raiders Theme".

://www.tracksounds.com/specialfeatures/interviews/interview_david_robidoux_2007.htm


Here's the part the link refers to: smile

CC: I assume this Raiders theme is the piece Sam Spence wrote long ago called, "The Raider."

DAVID ROBIDOUX: Yep...that's the one. He just wrote a piece of music which he would call something like "NFL 0253" and then when it came into the building the producers would name it. When that piece came in, someone said it had sort of a "pirate sound" and so it should be used with the Raiders. Later the Raiders heard it and loved it, so we started using it over Raiders' film. Since we are a part of the NFL, we make sure that gets used for The Raiders. It's sort of an unspoken thing. It wasn't really written for them, but its just never been used for anything other than them.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2010 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

There's nothing quite like the music of NFL Films accompanying footage of quarterback Joe Kapp and his Minnesota Vikings in the snow and frigid temperatures of Metropolitan Stadium in the late 1960's.

Football the way it used to be.


----------------------

This really is a tremendous montage. You can see that Joe Kapp (#11) had a perpetual limp, even as he lumbers in during the pre-game introductions. And at the 2:09 when he runs roughshod over the defender and it's the defender that goes--and stays--down. Today's QBs would've done a baby slide fifteen yards in advance to avoid taking a hit. Here, Kapp's the one dishing it out.

The whole thing is so theatrical: the imagery of the snow, players covered in mud as to be unrecognizable, the lineman getting set in unison. If this was done in a "major motion picture" people wouldn't believe it.


A video--and a post--so good it bears repeating. For those who despise sports, just pretend you're watching starships, Jedis, and Hobbits and then you'll get into the magic of this music and its wonderful "marriage" to the images. big grin



Thanks for "getting it" Mr. Phelps. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2010 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

"Doug Williams"

This one is narrated by Gene Hackman. NFL Films has been using a lot of celebrities in this role these days it seems.
I think James Gandolfini and Martin Sheen are among others who also have done them.

But you can never replace "the voice" John Facenda.

 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2010 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Hey Anz, that's from "America's Game: The Super Bowl", that I mentioned earlier in the thread. It does have an "all-star" lineup of narrators: Donald Sutherland, Tom Selleck, Ed Harris, and even "our good friend" Alec Baldwin. wink

It's a fine series. Happy New Year to you, Sis, and "Max Belocchio." smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2010 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

"Doug Williams"

This one is narrated by Gene Hackman. NFL Films has been using a lot of celebrities in this role these days it seems.
I think James Gandolfini and Martin Sheen are among others who also have done them.

But you can never replace "the voice" John Facenda.



Or even Harry Kalas. Burt Lancaster narrated the first N.F.L. Films special, "They Call It Pro Football".

 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2010 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I always liked this highlight from Super Bowl XIII, which has Facenda in his usual godly form and a fine cue from Spence, though I don't know the name of it:

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2010 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

Hey Anz, that's from "America's Game: The Super Bowl", that I mentioned earlier in the thread. It does have an _all-star" lineup of narrators: Donald Sutherland, Tom Selleck, Ed Harris, and even "our good friend" Alec Baldwin. wink

It's a fine series. Happy New Year to you, Sis, and "Max Belocchio." smile



Happy New Year to you too Jim!

I guess some of these "all star" actors must have been fans of the old NFL Films programs as are we.

Quite a bit of the older NFL stuff you now find posted on You Tube is hit and miss (no pun). A lot of these jokers are taking some very good old classic footage and ruining it by editing in their own inappropriate screaming rock and rap music. I'm sure you know what I mean as you scan through some of them.

Here is one I just found recently. Not sure who produced it or who did the music, but it's one of the better Super Bowl III videos I've seen.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 30, 2010 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

"Doug Williams"

This one is narrated by Gene Hackman. NFL Films has been using a lot of celebrities in this role these days it seems.
I think James Gandolfini and Martin Sheen are among others who also have done them.

But you can never replace "the voice" John Facenda.

Or even Harry Kalas. Burt Lancaster narrated the first N.F.L. Films special, "They Call It Pro Football".




The late Harry Kalas was very good in his days with NFL Films.

He of course was also the legendary broadcaster for the Philadelphia Phillies.

The voice of John Facenda just brings me back to a different time in football history, and as a young kid in the early 70's I looked forward to those highlight shows because he (along with the Sam Spence music) made it all seem larger than life.

Many of the the players were far from millionaires back then, they played hard for pride and love of the game.

Yep.. It was a long time ago.

 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2011 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

John Scott- "Gathering Crowds"

Those who watched THIS WEEK IN BASEBALL will remember this theme, which played over the end credits of each episode. I associate this theme with that program and was unaware that it was for NFL Films.

It's a splendid composition.


 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2011 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

John Scott- "Gathering Crowds"

Those who watched THIS WEEK IN BASEBALL will remember this theme, which played over the end credits of each episode. I associate this theme with that program and was unaware that it was for NFL Films.


Wow! I remember it so well from "This Week in Baseball" but never knew it was a John Scott composition until this minute! (Now that I know, I can hear it.) I have two friends who met working on "This Week In Baseball," and I used to hum that tune to them when they came by. (One of them is a walking encyclopedia of baseball facts. The other seriously doesn't know what the team in Cleveland is called.)

This reminds me: In the liner notes for "North Dallas Forty," Scott mentions that the producer admired a theme he wrote that was used for the New York Knicks. Anybody have any idea what theme that is? As an avid Knicks watcher around that time, I'm sure I'd know it.

 
 Posted:   Jan 5, 2011 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Sam Spence- "Salute to Courage" Dedicated to all those who've posted in this fine thread. wink Courage, indeed! big grin

I wonder when this one was composed, as it has a RIGHT STUFF quality to it, much like another Spence composition--"The Final Quest"--which sounds like Williams' SUPERMAN theme. I'm guessing that NFL Films was savvy enough to tap into pop culture and use similar versions for their highlight films.



 
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