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Taras sounds like its going to be grand.
I know everyone is thowing in dozens of ideas and perhaps I missed the reason why not but wasnt there some discussion as to the possibility of a re-recording fitz special on The Pride and the Passion? wonderful score which would has such depth and potential.
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double bubble. please ignore
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Not remembering the film very well, I have no opinion on James's question.
...What do folks have against source music?
I've been away from my computer for a couple of weeks, so forgive my belated reply.
I, for one, would have loved to hear at least some, if not all, of the "source" material that Waxman prepared for TARAS BULBA, as they were the basis for much of his score. According to the composer, "I actually found some beautiful authentic material in the music stores of Kiev, such as the tune which underlines Taras’ speech in which he pledges revenge and fight for freedom of his people. The other themes were composed in the spirit and harmonic structure of Kievan folk music."
The two Christmas carols (the first Polish, the second Ukrainian) are appropriate as lead-ins to Waxman's "Sleigh Ride", the opening measures of which are based on the second carol, known it modified form in the Western world as "Carol of the Bells."
"Zaparoshtchi" (aka "The Two Sons of Taras") is incorporated instrumentally into the score, most notably at the conclusion of the cue "Chase At Night." "I Lulee, Lulee" becomes the lullaby theme for "The Birth Of Andrei."
Since Alfred Newman included music from Orthodox Easter services on his ANASTASIA Fox soundtrack album, and Maurice Jarre thought it important to include the Orthodox funeral prayer for the burial scene in DOCTOR ZHIVAGO on the MGM Records soundtrack album, I would bet that there are Eastern Orthodox choirs within Prague that would readily render (or even provide a ready-made recording of) the classic prayer "Vo Tzarstvie Tvoem" ("In Your Kingdom").
I'll grant that "Zaparoshtchi" and "The Drinking Song" won't sound the same without Yul Brynner.
Perhaps an instrumental suite (arranged by Nic Raine) of some of the above source cues might be a reasonable compromise.
These are only my opinions, James. There are undoubtedly financial and time considerations involved in all this, so I will bow to your experience.
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Jan 22, 2011 - 1:21 AM
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JamesFitz
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Not remembering the film very well, I have no opinion on James's question.
...What do folks have against source music?
I've been away from my computer for a couple of weeks, so forgive my belated reply.
I, for one, would have loved to hear at least some, if not all, of the "source" material that Waxman prepared for TARAS BULBA, as they were the basis for much of his score. According to the composer, "I actually found some beautiful authentic material in the music stores of Kiev, such as the tune which underlines Taras’ speech in which he pledges revenge and fight for freedom of his people. The other themes were composed in the spirit and harmonic structure of Kievan folk music."
The two Christmas carols (the first Polish, the second Ukrainian) are appropriate as lead-ins to Waxman's "Sleigh Ride", the opening measures of which are based on the second carol, known it modified form in the Western world as "Carol of the Bells."
"Zaparoshtchi" (aka "The Two Sons of Taras") is incorporated instrumentally into the score, most notably at the conclusion of the cue "Chase At Night." "I Lulee, Lulee" becomes the lullaby theme for "The Birth Of Andrei."
Since Alfred Newman included music from Orthodox Easter services on his ANASTASIA Fox soundtrack album, and Maurice Jarre thought it important to include the Orthodox funeral prayer for the burial scene in DOCTOR ZHIVAGO on the MGM Records soundtrack album, I would bet that there are Eastern Orthodox choirs within Prague that would readily render (or even provide a ready-made recording of) the classic prayer "Vo Tzarstvie Tvoem" ("In Your Kingdom").
I'll grant that "Zaparoshtchi" and "The Drinking Song" won't sound the same without Yul Brynner.
Perhaps an instrumental suite (arranged by Nic Raine) of some of the above source cues might be a reasonable compromise.
These are only my opinions, James. There are undoubtedly financial and time considerations involved in all this, so I will bow to your experience.
I think that it might be a case of doing what Franz actually wrote ...i.e. Cossack camp music ...rather than the stuff that was arranged by other hands...i.e. Christmas carols...Jack Halloran
As for the 6 songs written for Yul by Franz and Mack David ...with 4 not being used. There is only a lead sheet with chords and vocal line ...so absolutely no clue as to what the accompaniment might be! It might be nice ...and not too expensive to do Vocal and guitar versions ....as I am certain that at least 2 of the songs would have been done this way. But sometimes the lyrics are really hilariously awful !!!!
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It doesn't seem (sadly) that there is such a demand for "Classic" scores from the sixties, which is a tragedy for those of us who were fanatical film and soundtrack fans back then.
Thank you James for recording some of the classical scores from my favourite period in film music, Lawrence, Alamo, Exodus, El Cid and now Taras Bulba.
I'd love you to re-record Magnificent Seven, but that probably wouldn't sell very well either, previous re-recordings have always been somewhat lacking, I'd love to hear a complete score recording done by Tadlow, sadly I think this will be one dream that doesn't come true.
I suppose that if the Rozsa estate refuse permission for Quo Vadis then the same goes for Sodom and Gomorrah, King of Kings and Ben Hur?
Just asking.
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James, fellow Lancastrian (me, no I'm not crawling.....really) what Jarre score was this then?
Ah I guess we'll find out soon enough, it would be nice if you could give us a hint though . 
Then another epic, well, I wish it was The Vikings, but whatever it seems like we've got lots to look forwards to again this year.
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Very disappointing news about 'Quo Vadis'. Is there any way for fans of this music to contact the Rozsa family to try to persuade them to release the music to Tadlow and so do Miklos the honour of having this score re-recorded? I am sure that he would have approved himself as he always seemed to be in favour of making his music available to his fans.
David Charles
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