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 Posted:   Oct 26, 2012 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   skyross   (Member)

I am delighted with a new recording of Quo Vadis on CD.

I love all Tadlow recordings but this one is important as the Soundtrack recordings have pretty bad sound. FSM did a great job in releasing what they could on the Millos Rozsa Box but a lot of the music was taken from the music and effects track.

I look forward to receiving this great score on CD. Thank Goodness it's not a download !

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2012 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

It's unfortunate, but it IS going in that direction -- Naxos recently released a download only recording (a new orchestration of Pictures at an Exhibiton and other Mussorsky music) and has NO intention of releasing it on disc (they often release something digitally and then disc later, but this is the first time I've seen with no disc outside a couple obscure things....please no comments about that Copland which is a special case)

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2012 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

You can burn a CD-R as a backup, too.

This is the first time I read that a CD-R is a good way for a backup...

I think CD-R's are even more unsafe than a hard drive. The longest living medium to day is a pressed disc I suppose.


I completely agree on that, but as it turns out there's still a surprisingly large number of customers who will burn their purchased downloaded copy onto a CD, because in some irrational way, it makes them feel safe, comfortable.

As for the "professionally made" booklets, the PDFs can be read in full color on any modern tablet easy-peasy. and even by many multimedia players. I'm fine by that.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2012 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Dimifan   (Member)

As soon as it was announced I immediately placed my order for Quo Vadis. Would it be only as download available Iwouldn´t buy it. As someone perfectly nailed it here on the board some time ago - the day soundtracks are available only as downloads is the end of my collection...

Currently I´m still enjoying the physical products and would like to thank Tadlow and Prometheus for their great releases of classic film scores!

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2012 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   goldsmith-rulez   (Member)

Would it be only as download available Iwouldn´t buy it.

And, as someone else SHOULD have put it long ago: THAT's just stupid.

It's like the dinosaurs would have said after the giant asteroid had hit: I don't want that. smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2012 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)


Well what Mr Van De Ven chooses to with the releases that he spends his own personal savings on his his own affair...and he doesn't like doing downloads.


But he's spent his money on a hi-res recording, which is sitting there right now and cannot be reproduced on CD without massive down-sampling and substantial loss of quality.
For every 1000 here who might buy Quo Vadis on CD today, there are probably only 100 who would pay to download the far superior hi-res files.
When that situation inevitably reverses itself in the next three or four years and CD is gone, we'll be buying the recording again and eventually hearing it in the way Mr Van De Ven himself is enjoying listening to it today... on hi-res files that VASTLY outperform the CD "quality" we're currently being given.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2012 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)


Well what Mr Van De Ven chooses to with the releases that he spends his own personal savings on his his own affair...and he doesn't like doing downloads.


But he's spent his money on a hi-res recording, which is sitting there right now and cannot be reproduced on CD without massive down-sampling and substantial loss of quality.
For every 1000 here who might buy Quo Vadis on CD today, there are probably only 100 who would pay to download the far superior hi-res files.
When that situation inevitably reverses itself in the next three or four years and CD is gone, we'll be buying the recording again and eventually hearing it in the way Mr Van De Ven himself is enjoying listening to it today... on hi-res files that VASTLY outperform the CD "quality" we're currently being given.



Unfortunately for Luc he has only ever heard the CD 16 bit 44.1 quality that everyone will hear...I have kept the 24 bit 48 Khz just for myself!!! (I do not like 96khz as too bright for my old ears)

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2012 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   Dimifan   (Member)

Would it be only as download available Iwouldn´t buy it.

And, as someone else SHOULD have put it long ago: THAT's just stupid.

It's like the dinosaurs would have said after the giant asteroid had hit: I don't want that. smile


Maybe it´s stupid but that´s just my opnion. I have downloaded music earlier but for me it´s just inconvenient. A good example is Casino Royale. I purchased first the CD and later downloaded the expanded soundtrack. I even burned that on 2 CDs and included also the title song ( which I downloaded too). But actually I listen only to the pressed CD and for me it´s a much better listening experience.

As much as I like to listen to film scores (I´m collecting since nearly 35 years now) I hate to spend time in organizing downloaded music.

That said I have no problem with someone who likes downloads. That´s just fine for him and I honestly wish him to enjoy the music in this way as much as I´m enjoying it on a physical product.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2012 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   Joe Brausam   (Member)

I just got my shipping notice from SAE! They must have wanted to get these out before the hurricane hits. I can't wait!

 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2012 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

I just got my shipping notice from SAE! They must have wanted to get these out before the hurricane hits. I can't wait!

My two copies have also shipped from SAE.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2012 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)

I just got my shipping notice from SAE! They must have wanted to get these out before the hurricane hits. I can't wait!

My two copies have also shipped from SAE.


Info: Orders from TADLOW started to go out on Saturday...bulk will be posted on Monday & Tuesday

 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2012 - 2:25 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)


Well what Mr Van De Ven chooses to with the releases that he spends his own personal savings on his his own affair...and he doesn't like doing downloads.


But he's spent his money on a hi-res recording, which is sitting there right now and cannot be reproduced on CD without massive down-sampling and substantial loss of quality.
For every 1000 here who might buy Quo Vadis on CD today, there are probably only 100 who would pay to download the far superior hi-res files.
When that situation inevitably reverses itself in the next three or four years and CD is gone, we'll be buying the recording again and eventually hearing it in the way Mr Van De Ven himself is enjoying listening to it today... on hi-res files that VASTLY outperform the CD "quality" we're currently being given.



Unfortunately for Luc he has only ever heard the CD 16 bit 44.1 quality that everyone will hear...I have kept the 24 bit 48 Khz just for myself!!! (I do not like 96khz as too bright for my old ears)


I guess HDCD is gone for some reason?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2012 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)


Unfortunately for Luc he has only ever heard the CD 16 bit 44.1 quality that everyone will hear...I have kept the 24 bit 48 Khz just for myself!!!


I guess HDCD is gone for some reason?

James took that too. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2012 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   JamesFitz   (Member)


Unfortunately for Luc he has only ever heard the CD 16 bit 44.1 quality that everyone will hear...I have kept the 24 bit 48 Khz just for myself!!!


I guess HDCD is gone for some reason?


James took that too. smile

I liked HDCD ... but the general public didn't ... so HDCD mastering equipment is no longer made.....

PLus I would love to do high res 5.1 surround sound mixes of LAWRENCE, EL CID, CONAN, QUO V etc... but just not enough demand???

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2012 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

It's funny about SACD. You hear it's not a success, that there's no market for it. Yet every issue of Fanfare brings reviews of dozens of new releases. As in the past, it's the classical market that drives the quest for high fidelity. But the music industry naturally prefers to cater to the pop-loving masses, many of whom do their listening from those pod things through drugstore headphones. I fear that high-quality sources matter little in that market.

 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2012 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

It's funny about SACD. You hear it's not a success, that there's no market for it. Yet every issue of Fanfare brings reviews of dozens of new releases. As in the past, it's the classical market that drives the quest for high fidelity. But the music industry naturally prefers to cater to the pop-loving masses, many of whom do their listening from those pod things through drugstore headphones. I fear that high-quality sources matter little in that market.

If the music industry believed they could sell you the same music you already own (largely) all over again in an expensive format, they would be absolutely delighted to do so. But they can't, or haven't been able to, at least not in high enough numbers.

Fanfare caters to a very discerning, but very small, market. I know that people who read high-end car magazines disdain the Prius I drive, and readers of gourmet cooking magazines think my pots and pans heat too unevenly for serious cooking. Does this fill me with self-loathing? No. These are not things that are crucial to my life. So by that same token, I really think we should temper our contempt for those pop-loving masses. They like what they like, and it pleases them, and I say good for them.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 28, 2012 - 10:59 PM   
 By:   Aggelos   (Member)

what about Hybrid SACD?
Hybrid SACD, is a combination CD/SACD disc, which is a music CD that contains all the titles in the standard CD audio (CD-DA) format on the top layer and the higher-fidelity SACD format on the bottom layer.
There are cases where they are produced even after a 24bit/96Khz recording (non-DSD). I have a Chandos hybrid SACD that derived from 24bit/96Khz recording and it is post-2000 recording.
http://www.theclassicalshop.net/Details.aspx?CatalogueNumber=CHAN%205030
(Needless to say that many old recordings of classical music receive a remastering for a hybrid SACD release.) But even if a recording of the these days is not a DSD one (since Tadlow records material presently), it can still become a hunky-dory hybrid SACD.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2012 - 5:06 AM   
 By:   crocodile   (Member)

It arrived this morning, safe and sound. Can't wait give it an in-depth listen. smile

Thanks James, Nic and all the rest of their (rather big) gang!

Karol

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2012 - 5:13 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

It's arrived here in Lancashire as well.

It sounds tremendous and is packaged beautifully.

Wonderful achievement, thanks to all involved in this remarkable release.

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2012 - 5:26 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

I wonder how long it will take to get to Perth Western Australia ... ages! Worth the wait I recons. I'll start warming up with El Cid.

Could this be more enjoyable than BEN-HUR, maybe not bigger?

 
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