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 Posted:   Nov 30, 2012 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   mstanwick856   (Member)

Oh, I am on duty on Tau Ceti four and i have received mine. smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2012 - 5:32 AM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

Thanks to G-Fan for trading with me.

Always happy to help a fellow fan. I live on the east coast too (VA), but haven't gotten it yet... oh well. It should come today.

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2012 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

dltd

 
 Posted:   Nov 30, 2012 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Any word on when this will be available on Amazon?

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2012 - 11:32 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

dltd

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2012 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

Destroyer is a good example of why even though the performance isn't as good as the first score, I favor the original performance over the new re-recording.

If you listen to Conan and Bombaata Battle, which is the same piece written for Cutlery Interruptus, you will see differences in instruments clearly.

Here is how the piece appeared on the original soundtrack:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8m9NCGIPsM

Starting at 0:51 to roughly 1:30 you will hear big differences. Some of the percussion doesn't come in till later.

Now compare it here to Cutlery Interruptus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il6rRz7rt1k

Now, I don't know why these are so different. But I doubt the orchestra just did it their own way and Basil let them do what they want. Or perhaps Basil made changes during the recording from the original sheets.

Anyway, I prefer the way the original performance is presented. Yes, the new one sounds better in terms of fullness and quality, but I like the original's use of instruments.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2012 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Bishop   (Member)

Would be great to read more reactions of those who actually got the CD - that would help a lot to bridge the time for us poor barbarians living on a different continet. wink

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2012 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Nexus 6   (Member)

I've surprised myself by not purchasing this yet. Yes, I've got $200+ dollars burning a hole in my wallet (i.e. bank account) but that money is waiting for the ST:TOS behemoth on Dec. 4. Thank goodness the Conan release is unlimited.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2012 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Destroyer is a good example of why even though the performance isn't as good as the first score, I favor the original performance over the new re-recording.

This sounds like a prime example of "Anal Fanboy Thinking"...

Because in terms of PERFORMANCE in the case of DESTROYER it's a vastly Better then the soundtrack, which the composer HATED IT.

But let's proceed...


If you listen to Conan and Bombaata Battle, which is the same piece written for Cutlery Interruptus, you will see differences in instruments clearly.

Here is how the piece appeared on the original soundtrack:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8m9NCGIPsM

Starting at 0:51 to roughly 1:30 you will hear big differences. Some of the percussion doesn't come in till later.

Now compare it here to Cutlery Interruptus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il6rRz7rt1k

Now, I don't know why these are so different. But I doubt the orchestra just did it their own way and Basil let them do what they want. Or perhaps Basil made changes during the recording from the original sheets.


It could be any number of reasons, it's possible the director or producer requested the change, there was picture change and they need to alter it to fit, The orchestra just didn't have the chops to do what he written (which is highly possible)

Whatever the case, the PROMETHEUS Recording used Basil own scores (with his timing markings) and that's what they recorded.

Anyway, I prefer the way the original performance is presented.

"Anal Fanoby Thinking" confirmed....

Yes, the new one sounds better in terms of fullness and quality, but I like the original's use of instruments.

FYI, you can hear on the soundtrack recording the one of the Percussion players started to jump the gun, but just caught themselves.

On a PERFORMANCE level the OST is a mess, the PROMETHEUS RECORDING recording has a really great orchestra that can play what he wrote and a very good conductor who followed what Basil had WRITTEN to get that performance.

Did you ever wonder why the film's Main Title wasn't on the original album?

They could play it and after I think 7 takes (According to Basil directly) he just gave up, hoped the music editor could cut it together and the sound effects of the horses would cover these issues.

When it come time to do the album, he made sure it wasn't on it.

He hated it that much.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2012 - 9:42 PM   
 By:   Sketchkid   (Member)

Crom delivered this today! While the 2010 recording does have more 'kick' to it, the original has a stronger brass presence... a bit more of a piercing sound. Hard to explain, but glad to have both! I kinda feel like watching the blu-ray now...

If (and that's a big if) the new Legend of Conan moves forward, who would be the right composer for it? I don't want to get my hopes up, but I think that once Arnold's new films start to bomb at the box office (starting with The Last Stand), Conan will be scrapped.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2012 - 11:13 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

dltd

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2012 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

Here's my selection of tracks for a perfect 79.5 minute CD. There are a number of tracks over the 2 discs that can be considered "source cues" and a couple of redundant cues so I've cut the 108 minute score down to 79.

1) Prologue/Anvil of Crom
2) Riddle of Steel/Riders of Doom
3) Gift of Fury
4) Column of Sadness/Wheel of Pain
5) Pit Fights
6) Atlantean Sword (This is track 5 from disc 3. Sounds better than disc 1 version)
7) Theology/Civilization
8) The Snake/Infidels
9) Wifeing
10) The Leaving/The Search
11) Mountain of Power Procession
12) Capture
13) Tree of Woe/Recovery
14) Warpaint
15) The Kitchen/The Orgy
16) Funeral Pyre
17) Battle of the Mounds Part 1
18) Battle of the Mounds Part 2
19) Battle of the Mounds Part 3/Night Doom
20) Head Chop
21) Orphans of Doom/The Awakening

Long tracks such as "The Defilers" and "End Title" are repeats of the Main Title so I left them out.

Kudos to Intrada for this wonderful set and the improved sound quality.

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2012 - 1:22 AM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

Just ordered this. Cant wait. Between this and the Trek event today and the other LLL releases Ill have my hands and ears full. A wonderful time indeed. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2012 - 4:18 AM   
 By:   cutting_room_floor   (Member)

Did this ship for everyone who bought it on release day? It's been almost a week and my order is still pending fulfillment...

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2012 - 4:32 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I was planning to pass on this, as I had steadfastly avoided seeing the film based on the dreadful previews with Ah-nuld of the muscles-on-his-muscles riding about the red misty meadows with his silly horned hat and all. I have no connection with this film, but decided to give the samples a listen, which turned out to be an unexpected $30 move on my part. I actually liked the darn thing, and before I knew it...it was ordered. Rather than looking on this as something I missed out on for all these years due to my own rank stubbornness, I prefer to think of it as Providence that I did so, as there is now a splendid-sounding release of the actual tracks, and I have been spared the bad sounding earlier OST releases and a re-recording which (by some reports here) sounded great but missed the mark on the points which typically cause me to be disappointed by re-recordings. So carry on, then. Jolly good show and all that.


Much the same issues for me which persuaded me to buy the COP rerecording. It's not a favourite score of mine, but I quite enjoy that recording. The composer's dissatisfaction with the original film recordings and other comments by people who know more about these things than me, have convinced me I'm better off sticking to the rerecording. Especially as I'm only really a 'casual admirer' of the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2012 - 4:53 AM   
 By:   FalkirkBairn   (Member)

Did this ship for everyone who bought it on release day? It's been almost a week and my order is still pending fulfillment...

I bought this on the day of release and got a "your order has been fulfilled" 5 hours later.

And it arrived this morning - which was a BIG surprise because I live in the UK!! Awesomely quick delivery.

Now, here's hoping that the STAR TREK box ships and delivers that quickly.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2012 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

Destroyer is a good example of why even though the performance isn't as good as the first score, I favor the original performance over the new re-recording.

This sounds like a prime example of "Anal Fanboy Thinking"...

Because in terms of PERFORMANCE in the case of DESTROYER it's a vastly Better then the soundtrack, which the composer HATED IT.

But let's proceed...


If you listen to Conan and Bombaata Battle, which is the same piece written for Cutlery Interruptus, you will see differences in instruments clearly.

Here is how the piece appeared on the original soundtrack:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8m9NCGIPsM

Starting at 0:51 to roughly 1:30 you will hear big differences. Some of the percussion doesn't come in till later.

Now compare it here to Cutlery Interruptus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il6rRz7rt1k

Now, I don't know why these are so different. But I doubt the orchestra just did it their own way and Basil let them do what they want. Or perhaps Basil made changes during the recording from the original sheets.


It could be any number of reasons, it's possible the director or producer requested the change, there was picture change and they need to alter it to fit, The orchestra just didn't have the chops to do what he written (which is highly possible)

Whatever the case, the PROMETHEUS Recording used Basil own scores (with his timing markings) and that's what they recorded.

Anyway, I prefer the way the original performance is presented.

"Anal Fanoby Thinking" confirmed....

Yes, the new one sounds better in terms of fullness and quality, but I like the original's use of instruments.

FYI, you can hear on the soundtrack recording the one oft the Percussion players started to jump the gun, but just caught themselves.

On a PERFORMANCE level the OST is a mess, the PROMETHEUS RECORDING recording has a reallre great orchestra that can play what he wrote and a very good conductor who followed what Basil had WRITTEN to get that performance.

Did you ever wonder why the film's Main Title wasn't on the original album?

They could play it and after I think 7 takes (According to Basil directly) he just gave up, hoped the music editor could cut it together and the sound effects of the horses would cover these issues.

When it come time to do the album, he made sure it wasn't on it.

He hated it that much.

Ford A. Thaxton


Typical response from what I call "Anal Producer Thinking".
Of course you are going to favor the new re-recordings over anything else. But the problem is they'll never have the charm they have in relation to the original films. Even despite Basil not liking the original performances. Lots of people's work can still be appreciated even if to their own standards it wasn't up to snuff.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2012 - 6:44 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Typical response from what I call "Anal Producer Thinking".

aka, fanboy speak for someone who is well informed and offers opinions that upsets him..

Let's proceed..


Of course you are going to favor the new re-recordings over anything else.

No, but in the case of some things like say CONAN THE DESTROYER, the new recording is a vast improvement over the soundtrack recording on a number of levels.

In the case of CONAN THE BARBARIAN, Basil got the best results he could from that orchestra and while far from perfect on a performance level is still got a power to it.

the PROMETHEUS RECORDING is closer to what he WANTED then what he got and has a richer sound and the original full orchestrations.

That's just a fact.

But the problem is they'll never have the charm they have in relation to the original films.

Yes, but to say it's the best, that's "anal fanboy thinking" in terms of performance and such, that ignores a lot of problems.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2012 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I fell in love with this score in the original recording and I will be picking up Intrada's beautiful set eventually.

That said, here's a perhaps less biased perspective...I played the Varese release for my wife about a year after we were married. She liked it, but wasn't exactly nuts about it. Fast forward to the Tadlow recording a couple years later when she couldn't even remember hearing the original...BAM! She got *obsessed* with it. I mean, whenever she visited me at work at Joel's Classical Shop, I had to put the album on (either it or Warbeck's Shakespeare in Love, that is). I actually started to burn myself out on the recording because *she* loved it so much!

Now when I sat her down to listen to Intrada's new samples with me, her reaction was *disgust* -- ie. HOW can you like this? And not particularly in terms of sound quality but performance. She's not an expert but could tell how superior the performance was in the re-recording overall.

I think some people in this thread are looking through rose-colored glasses...

Again, I'm STILL excited that this came out and I applaud Intrada's efforts to give the original recording the best treatment possible. Here's hoping that Mike M. or someone can work the same magic on Conan the Destroyer that was done for Superman IV (mixing different takes if necessary to avoid flubs), which also had performance and recording issues but ended up sounding wonderful on the FSM Blue Box thanks to the TLC and modern technology applied.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2012 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)


Now when I sat her down to listen to Intrada's new samples with me, her reaction was *disgust* -- ie. HOW can you like this? And not particularly in terms of sound quality but performance. She's not an expert but could tell how superior the performance was in the re-recording overall.

Yavar



The well-performed re-recording is sabotaged by horribly stressed sound in the loud passages. One need look no further than Track 1 for the first of several examples. Try the few seconds from 3:15 to the end of the track through headphones. It's the audio comfort equivalent of three people sharing the same seat in a passenger plane. Maybe people with short legs won't mind as much as others though.
My opinion is that the re-recording has some of the most cramped high-powered orchestral reproduction I've heard in years, in total contrast to all Tadlow's other magnificent releases, including the excellent Conan the Destroyer.

 
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