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 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.........

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2018 - 8:20 PM   
 By:   Adam S   (Member)

It is an interesting movie in that it is a serious historical episode from over 40 years ago wrapped up in a pretty contemporary Hollywood veneer. Which actually gives the score more to do. I wouldn't have predicted the bold brass statements in The Presses Roll but now that I've seen the movie, it fits with what Spielberg was doing. Takes what is in a certain sense a kind of radical message about the truth being a threat to the establishment, both government and to the media institutions potentially and delivers it in a popularized, audience-satisfying direction. Still mostly a very subtle score but there was a payoff to it where the music played a bigger role in the end.

I'd love to have Williams just spin off some more of those piano jazz tracks. There was at least one unreleased source cue that was a little more up tempo that I would love to have. Shows off his compositional skills as much as the more traditional sounding score does.

- Adam

 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2018 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   CCW1970   (Member)

It is an interesting movie in that it is a serious historical episode from over 40 years ago wrapped up in a pretty contemporary Hollywood veneer. Which actually gives the score more to do. I wouldn't have predicted the bold brass statements in The Presses Roll but now that I've seen the movie, it fits with what Spielberg was doing. Takes what is in a certain sense a kind of radical message about the truth being a threat to the establishment, both government and to the media institutions potentially and delivers it in a popularized, audience-satisfying direction. Still mostly a very subtle score but there was a payoff to it where the music played a bigger role in the end.

I'd love to have Williams just spin off some more of those piano jazz tracks. There was at least one unreleased source cue that was a little more up tempo that I would love to have. Shows off his compositional skills as much as the more traditional sounding score does.

- Adam


Wholeheartedly agree!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I thought this is one of Spielberg's weakest films.
It looks fine and makes all the right noises, but it's just missing some spark that similar films in its wheelhouse have.
It's like SPOTLIGHT without the 'give a sh!t'.
Even Streep and Hanks seemed to be going through the motions to me. Two of their dullest performances.
The first hour especially was slow and dreary, with generally ill-mannered, unlikeable rich people sitting around chatting. The script isn't 'zingy' enough to account for this.
The second hour rallies somewhat (maybe cos John Williams starts singing a lot more) and things move a bit faster and become slightly more interesting.
But overall, while not as bad as THE TERMINAL, it's a film I could never sit through again.
On a more positive note. As I sat in the cinema, a feeling of profound joy overcame me as I realised I was hearing new film music by John Williams for the fifth decade in my life.
A journey that began in the 70's, with my 10+ year old self hearing scores like JAWS, EARTHQUAKE, POSEIDON ADVENTURE & TOWERING INFERNO in those darkened cinemas, was still going strong into my 50's, as the maestro continues to bewitch me with his genius.
I Salute You Sir!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

Hmm. I loved THE TERMINAL.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I thought this is one of Spielberg's weakest films.
It looks fine and makes all the right noises, but it's just missing some spark that similar films in it's wheelhouse have.
It's like SPOTLIGHT without the 'give a sh!t'.


I feel 100% the opposite. I thought SPOTLIGHT was a dreary affair which bored me to tears, while THE POST was an exuberant way of squeezing juice out of a lemon. The visual motifs (doors, lamps), the energetic camera movement, the editing....for a film with such a relatively boring premise, Spielberg managed to turn it into a audiovisual feast! Even more than BRIDGE OF SPIES and LINCOLN.

And I've said it before -- Williams' score was my third favourite of the year, the second best score he's done since 2005 (after WAR HORSE) and just an altogether joy to behold, both in and out of context.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Yeah, Spielberg knows all the bells and whistles, but the whole thing just felt flat and uninvolving to me. Aside from JW.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I liked The Post, you have to go in knowing that this is pretty much a talking movie for almost the entire film.
It is a good film. But I enjoyed Bridge of Spies more, overall it is a better film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Yeah, I knew what to expect. I didn't go in anticipating BABY DRIVER.
But in line with films of its ilk, this one was much weaker to me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yeah, I knew what to expect. I didn't go in anticipating BABY DRIVER.
But in line with films of it's ilk, this one was much weaker to me.
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I think it's one of the best films I've seen in this genre (which generally doesn't appeal to me). I like this far more than ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN, for example.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Yeah, I knew what to expect. I didn't go in anticipating BABY DRIVER.
But in line with films of it's ilk, this one was much weaker to me.
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I think it's one of the best films I've seen in this genre (which generally doesn't appeal to me). I like this far more than ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN, for example.



I agree

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   CCW1970   (Member)

Hmm. I loved THE TERMINAL.

Yeah, I did too. I think it's because I thought it was a Frank Capra/fairy tale type movie. In that way, I found it sweet and enchanting.

So many people crap on The Terminal. Maybe the expected something more than what it was, a light confection of a film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

THE TERMINAL is lovely, for the reasons you cite.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   basmith   (Member)

You can say All the President's Men is a different film about different things. However, both films are based on true stories set during the Nixon presidency, with the press as protagonist, dealing with lies and corruption by the establishment, and specifically the executive branch (although the Pentagon Papers were dealing with lies of the Johnson & Kennedy administrations about the Vietnam war, and were leaked during the Nixon administration). I not only think it's an unavoidable comparison, I think it's a fair comparison.

It may be unavoidable, but I don't think it's fair. "All the President's Men" is about grunt reporters uncovering a mystery. "The Post" has no mystery – we know from the first five minutes who has done what and why. And the heroes are not grunts – one of the key points in the movie is that they are in the upper echelons of Washington elites. They are mostly wealthy, they were chummy with JFK and McNamara. This is not incidental, it is frequently the point.

The film is not a reboot of or prequel to "All the President's Men," and since "All the President's Men" exists, I don't know why anybody would want it to be. That said, I have a pretty good sense that you will not like the movie, CCW1970.



There are plenty of differences in the two films, and in their respective historical scenarios. However the similarities are impossible to ignore, particularly when the final scene in effect sets up Watergate as a sequel. In addition to soliciting comparisons to a clearly superior film in All the President’s Men, this last scene diminishes and distracts from the dramatic effect of the story we have just been told. I enjoyed a lot about The Post but given the potential from such a dream team, it was still somewhat of a disappointment. I was pleased with John Williams’s score and I have a feeling I will love it once I have a chance to listen to it on its own.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

You can say All the President's Men is a different film about different things. However, both films are based on true stories set during the Nixon presidency, with the press as protagonist, dealing with lies and corruption by the establishment, and specifically the executive branch (although the Pentagon Papers were dealing with lies of the Johnson & Kennedy administrations about the Vietnam war, and were leaked during the Nixon administration). I not only think it's an unavoidable comparison, I think it's a fair comparison.

It may be unavoidable, but I don't think it's fair. "All the President's Men" is about grunt reporters uncovering a mystery. "The Post" has no mystery – we know from the first five minutes who has done what and why. And the heroes are not grunts – one of the key points in the movie is that they are in the upper echelons of Washington elites. They are mostly wealthy, they were chummy with JFK and McNamara. This is not incidental, it is frequently the point.

The film is not a reboot of or prequel to "All the President's Men," and since "All the President's Men" exists, I don't know why anybody would want it to be. That said, I have a pretty good sense that you will not like the movie, CCW1970.



There are plenty of differences in the two films, and in their respective historical scenarios. However the similarities are impossible to ignore, particularly when the final scene in effect sets up Watergate as a sequel. In addition to soliciting comparisons to a clearly superior film in All the President’s Men, this last scene diminishes and distracts from the dramatic effect of the story we have just been told. I enjoyed a lot about The Post but given the potential from such a dream team, it was still somewhat of a disappointment. I was pleased with John Williams’s score and I have a feeling I will love it once I have a chance to listen to it on its own.


I love not only All the Presidents Men but the Post AND Mark Felt the Man who brought down the President. All three are great!!!

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   CCW1970   (Member)

I love not only All the Presidents Men but the Post AND Mark Felt the Man who brought down the President. All three are great!!!

Agreed, one can like both films without taking away from either one.

There's a school of thought that says Felt was motivated more by being overlooked for the top spot at the FBI than wanting to do the right thing. Whatever his motivations, the end result is bastard Nixon had to resign.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2018 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I just want to add that I didn't hate or dislike this film. Its quality and credentials are way too high to be completely dismissed.
But as mentioned above, considering the dream team involved in the production, I felt a huge wave of disappointment during it and at the end.
It never stirred me or got me pumped or indignant, like I have been in other films of this genre.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 4:41 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I was also waiting for the scene on the CD cover (Hanks & Streep on the steps) to appear in the film.
Did I blink and miss it, or was it never there?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

I was also waiting for the scene on the CD cover (Hanks & Streep on the steps) to appear in the film.
Did I blink and miss it, or was it never there?


It´s a symbolic key visual created for marketing.

I hope you weren't waiting for E.T.´s and Eliot´s hands to appear in space over the Earth when watching "E.T." :-)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I liked the movie (key word: liked), but The Post was at times amateurish. That scene towards the end when Graham is entering the courthouse and meets a young woman carrying a box. We learn, in a two-shot, that the young woman works for the other side, but (cut to close-up) she admires Mrs. Graham and what she is doing. Then, as if that wasn't enough, the young woman gets yelled at by her boss for following somebody else's orders. Lesson: Good guys good to the little people; bad guys mean to the little people.

 
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