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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Outland
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2010 - 8:19 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Awesome!!!! I hope this doesn't sell out too quickly.

I think your cool if you have to wait, but it would drive me nuts to wait too long.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2010 - 8:27 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

ORDERED!!

I was going thru "major composers" withdrawl, at last the "Outland" I always hoped for. Sad to say this is the first film music disc I have bought since "The Spiral Road". I love supporting FSM, Intrada etc. but...


Thanks, Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2010 - 8:47 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

It's a cool score, but I am predictably pleased with the ol' GNP release (coupled with CAPRICORN ONE).

However, is my memory off or was this already reissued? Perhaps I'm confusing it with CAPRICORN ONE...

By the way, very cool "alternative" artwork there (with the space station against the yellow moon), much better than the old release.


Not more Thor crap give me a break....

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2010 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Film Score Monthly presents this expanded new 2CD release by JERRY GOLDSMITH

Is there any reason for me to keep my copy of the GNP/Cresendo release of Outland/Capricorn One?



Nope

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2010 - 8:55 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Is there any reason for me to keep my copy of the GNP/Cresendo release of Outland/Capricorn One?

If you like the re-recording of Capricorn One (which I do) I would hang on to it!

-Erik-

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2010 - 9:32 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

Is there any reason for me to keep my copy of the GNP/Cresendo release of Outland/Capricorn One?

If you like the re-recording of Capricorn One (which I do) I would hang on to it!

-Erik-


And for those that picked up Intrada's Capricorn One but never managed to get the GNP Crescendo Outland/Capricorn One CD, Collector's Choice re-released the Capricorn One album recording last year. It's available on Amazon.

So between those two albums and FSM's Outland, I think I'm set. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2010 - 10:37 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

oh man, those two source cues!!


"Disc 1 also interpolates the work of two other composers, who stepped in when Hyams requested changes but Goldsmith was unavailable: Morton Stevens, who adapted Goldsmith’s thematic material for the film’s climactic fight on the exterior of the station (“The Last Battle [Broken Hose]”),?



I've got to confess I have a little issue here.


Yes, Morton did use a bit of Goldsmith's theme, but as I recall his piece really is mostly HIM (bits from his score to THE GREAT WHITE are in it), but I don't seem to recall him using very much of Goldsmith's music beyond a quote of the tune..


Ford A. Thaxton


Ford, I guess this is a matter of some interpretation and I respect your opinion. The cue sheet credit was "adapted by" so we felt it was accurate to use.

Lukas



I would agree.


The credit on the cue sheet is what was agreed to and that's that..


However, as others have already pointed out, it's Pure Morton Stevens for the most part.

Jerry picked the right guy to do it..


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2010 - 11:29 PM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

I think I may like the Outland score a little better than it's companion piece Alien - the up/down motive gives the whole thing more of a structure. Although Alien has cooler effects. But the urban legend is that Peter Hyams HATED it, and wouldn't work with Goldsmith again because of it. Goldsmith himself considered the score a failure as well, although probably because of Hyams' attitude. If true it's pretty inexplicable - the score, as well as the production design, make the movie. Many thanks for the release.

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2010 - 2:35 AM   
 By:   Jar Jar's Introduction   (Member)



Forgot to use this for all the Star Treks, but this action stands.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2010 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

Indeed -- INTROVISION was then, a major new component in the movie making process -- before all the CGI took center stage. I met the dude your speaking of -- but memory is totally failing me at the moment! (Ah, wait a sec -- John Eppolito!) Sorry about the double post kids!

I believe they also used the Introvision process on The Fugitive for the shot where Harrison Ford jumps off the bus just before the train crashes into it - the only effects shot in the film if I recall.



 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2010 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

I think I may like the Outland score a little better than it's companion piece Alien - the up/down motive gives the whole thing more of a structure. Although Alien has cooler effects. But the urban legend is that Peter Hyams HATED it, and wouldn't work with Goldsmith again because of it. Goldsmith himself considered the score a failure as well, although probably because of Hyams' attitude. If true it's pretty inexplicable - the score, as well as the production design, make the movie. Many thanks for the release.

We interviewed Hyams and he never said a disparaging word about the score or about Jerry.

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2010 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I think I may like the Outland score a little better than it's companion piece Alien - the up/down motive gives the whole thing more of a structure. Although Alien has cooler effects. But the urban legend is that Peter Hyams HATED it, and wouldn't work with Goldsmith again because of it. Goldsmith himself considered the score a failure as well, although probably because of Hyams' attitude. If true it's pretty inexplicable - the score, as well as the production design, make the movie. Many thanks for the release.

We interviewed Hyams and he never said a disparaging word about the score or about Jerry.

Lukas



Fabulous...glad Hyams was aware and involved, to get his input at the least. The movie itself is hit or miss, as always with Hyams, excellent atmosphere and action with smart ass dialogue. Looking forward to getting this one - thanks so much for the wonderful work . Hyams almost always had great scores for his films, all the way up to The Relic and End Of Days ( underrated score from Debney)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2010 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

I think I may like the Outland score a little better than it's companion piece Alien - the up/down motive gives the whole thing more of a structure. Although Alien has cooler effects. But the urban legend is that Peter Hyams HATED it, and wouldn't work with Goldsmith again because of it. Goldsmith himself considered the score a failure as well, although probably because of Hyams' attitude. If true it's pretty inexplicable - the score, as well as the production design, make the movie. Many thanks for the release.

We interviewed Hyams and he never said a disparaging word about the score or about Jerry.

Lukas


I don't remember where I came across that, but I'd be pleased to hear it to be completely wrong. On the DVD commentary to Capricorn One, Hyams was complimentary to the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2010 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   Doctor Plesman   (Member)

Brilliant. Just brilliant!

Thanks, FSM!

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2010 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

noch amahl mit der svei cd's!
ein! ein! ein!



es ist mit Z - Zwei - und in Deutsch - wenn mann Schreib V - dan sagt man ein Fauuuu


Ja! Ich verstehen zie. Herr Marshall ist ein dumkopf, nicht vahr?



Vielleich - Kan du så også forstå mit sprog

Første gang jeg hørte OUTLAND så var det på genudgivelsen fra 2001. Jeg kan ikke huske musikken af Goldsmith men jeg kan godt huske "the recording room" razz


speak English, dammitt
or get the hell out of 'our" country!
brm


Herr Marshall ist ein dumkopf jahh jahh

big grin

Sorry couldn't resist


i understand the language of the Reich also. watch it!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2010 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   Doctor Plesman   (Member)


i understand the language of the Reich also. watch it!


Ihr Witzbolde! Das Reich ist doch lange untergegangen...

Aber das wisst ihr ja ;-)

Und jetzt sind wir alle ganz friedlich in Deutschland...

Wirklich. Believe me.

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2010 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

so, what did DER volk think of MARATHON MENch?
smile

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2010 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

ein REICH
ein VOLK
ein FUHRER!

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2010 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

ein REICH
ein VOLK
ein FUHRER!



Idiotic, Bruce.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2010 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   Doctor Plesman   (Member)

ein REICH
ein VOLK
ein FUHRER!


Hmmm... if you'd say these words in Germany in public, you'd be charged. Seriously...

And I simply love MARATHON MAN. Film and score. And the FSM CD of course.
But I already said that dozens of times, I believe ;-)

 
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