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 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

That's probably the Fantastic Four you're thinking of. And I'm pretty sure Perez was even inked by Joe Sinnott on a few of those issues.

Looks like he started with this issue...

 Posted:   Feb 22, 2008 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

Ah, George:

Another in the pantheon of Marvel's Greatest Heroes ... ;

 Posted:   Feb 23, 2008 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   JSWalsh   (Member)

Perez was my favorite illustrator along with Byrne and Starlin, around the time I ended my comics reading.

 Posted:   Feb 24, 2008 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

There was a fascinating documentary shown on BBC last September hosted by Jonathan Ross


where Ross endeavored to track down and meet his long-time idol. Alan Moore, Neil Gaiman, John Romita, Cat Yronwode (for all those ex-Comics Buyers Guiders), even Ayn Rand! and, of course, Smilin’ Stan were all on the program which we’re DYIN’ to see.

Anyone of FSM’s British contingent manage to catch it? Whadja think?!!!!

YO, Jeh,

where are ya when FSM Assembled really needs ya?! ... wink

 Posted:   Feb 24, 2008 - 10:25 PM   
 By:   JSWalsh   (Member)

For some reason, looking at the images on this thread just made me very sad. frown

 Posted:   Feb 25, 2008 - 3:29 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

For some reason, looking at the images on this thread just made me very sad ...

Explicate ...

or else ... wink

 Posted:   Feb 25, 2008 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

"What in the SAM HILL?!"

 Posted:   Feb 25, 2008 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

I saw the Ross, Steve Ditko Neo.

Unfortunately I didn't record it.

Ross is a massive Ditko and all around comic fan who really knows his stuff. Excellent program and I hope you get to see it?

 Posted:   Feb 26, 2008 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

We hope two ('scuze, three) some century or so, Timmer.

The program was posted on YouTube awhile back but (copyright infringement, most likely) disappeared with equal alacrity. And, so far as we're aware, it's not available for purchase anywhere as yet. If any enterprising unicorn did record it and wouldn't mind burning a copy,

puh-LEASE by all means let us know ...

 Posted:   Feb 26, 2008 - 7:44 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)


If I see it being repeated I'll record it and let you know.


 Posted:   Feb 27, 2008 - 4:59 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

With you as The Watcher,

we feel quite secure, Timski ... smile

 Posted:   Feb 27, 2008 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

And then there's

Hands down (and heart up) THE greatest run on that title before and since

with a benchmark of artistic accomplishment so high we feel it's well-nigh damn near definitive ...

 Posted:   Feb 27, 2008 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

The SECOND most memorable Daredevil run is early on with the unforgettable

which, for sheer adventure thrills, is unsurpassed!

and THE ABOVE truly is with a sparkling script from Smiley and breathtakingly heroic art from Wood that's second only to Kirby in capturing Namor's charismatic nobility.

RIP, Wondrous One...

 Posted:   Feb 27, 2008 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

With you as The Watcher,

we feel quite secure, Timski ... smile

Timski!? cool

Will do Neo.

p.s. What was The Watcher's real name? It eludes me right now.

 Posted:   Feb 27, 2008 - 11:52 PM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

Hi, Timmer. My name is Uatu.

You may remember me from my cameo appearance in What If... This Sarney Wasn't So Expensive?

 Posted:   Feb 28, 2008 - 1:38 AM   
 By:   crazyunclerolo   (Member)

Hey, Mike--
Face Front, True Believer!

 Posted:   Feb 28, 2008 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)


 Posted:   Feb 28, 2008 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

... wink

 Posted:   Feb 28, 2008 - 10:15 PM   
 By:   JSWalsh   (Member)

Explicate ...

I'm not sure I can do so briefly. I don't think I'm terribly nostalgic about comics--I have kept several dozen, but I can't recall checking them out in the last 20 years. I see comics in the music store all the time and have never been tempted to open them. But I do pick up bits of what they're like, and they seem to be...different. It's a sense of kids coming up these days not having access to the pleasures of those books, where the "cosmic" stuff was different--no movies that provided that kind of thing--and they seemed more like fuel for one's own imagination.

The audience for comics seems to be a lot older now.

That's just one part of it. I think it has something to do with the emotional impact some of those old books had on me.

Hmmm, I was right, would take too long to really touch the core of what I'm thinking.

 Posted:   Mar 29, 2008 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   Gordon Reeves   (Member)

There's a sparkling new book recently published that's cause for most Marvel-ous celebration, but afore we get to that, catch an appreciative glimmer of Brent Staples' editorial from the August 26, 2007 of The New York Times.

Entitled Jack Kirby, a Comic Book Genius, Is Finally Remembered, it went thus:

The fear of being forgotten after death is endemic in the creative arts. In the case of the iconic comic book artist Jack Kirby, it happened while he was still alive. By the 1960s, Mr. Kirby had already revolutionized the comic book business more than once. Working as principal artist and in-house genius for Marvel, he created a voice and an aesthetic unmatched by any other company.

Marvel took his talents for granted and denied him the credit and compensation he clearly deserved. Worse, he was overshadowed by his loquacious and photogenic collaborator, Stan Lee, who became the public face of an enterprise that depended heavily on Mr. Kirby’s skills.

Mr. Kirby eventually quit, leaving behind characters like the Hulk, the Fantastic Four, the X-Men and the Silver Surfer, and ending what was easily the most fruitful collaboration in comic book history. His long and ugly battle with Marvel over the rights to his original artwork galvanized the artistic community and raised his public profile.

Still, by the time of his death in 1994, he was clearly worried that Mr. Lee would eclipse him in public memory and that history would deny him the recognition he deserved for breathing life into a collection of universally recognized superheroes who would eventually become movie stars.

History was late to the party, but it finally arrived. Thanks to renewed interest in Mr. Kirby’s work — and shout-outs from novelists like Michael Chabon and Jonathan Lethem — he is more widely known today than he was in the 1960s. Back then, those of us who read him haunted newsstands and drugstores, ripping each new issue right out of the deliveryman’s hands. Two books, including a long-awaited biography, are in the works, and the reprint industry is threatening to resurrect everything Mr. Kirby ever produced.

He was introduced to a broader public just last month when the United States Postal Service issued 20 stamps depicting Marvel characters. The images seemed deliberately chosen to maximize Marvel’s marketing opportunities. Even so, Mr. Kirby is credited on eight of the stamps and could have been credited on several more. After all, he did at least some work on nearly every major character Marvel produced.

Mr. Kirby did a lot more than just draw. As the critic Gary Groth so ably put it in The Comics Journal Library, “He barreled like a freight train through the first 50 years of comic books like he owned the place.” He mastered and transformed all the genres, including romance, Westerns, science fiction and supernatural comics, before he landed at Marvel.

He created a new grammar of storytelling and a cinematic style of motion. Once-wooden characters cascaded from one frame to another — or even from page to page — threatening to fall right out of the book into the reader’s lap. The force of punches thrown was visibly and explosively evident. Even at rest, a Kirby character pulsed with tension and energy in a way that makes movie versions of the same characters seem static by comparison.

The frenetic action and the rooftop fighting so common on the superhero set did not just materialize out of nowhere. Mr. Kirby remembered much of it from his Depression-era youth on New York’s Lower East Side, where, he once told an interviewer, the incessant fights among rival gangs were often staged up and down fire escapes and during running battles across tenement rooftops.

In a recent interview, his friend and biographer Mark Evanier described Mr. Kirby as a man so obsessed with giving voice to the characters that he had to give up just about everything else. He put aside driving, Mr. Evanier said, because he became so distracted that he would sometimes run off the road. Once he got a book plotted in his head he’d sit at the drafting table around the clock if necessary. With a fixation like that, he easily outproduced even his most prolific contemporaries.

With interest in Mr. Kirby growing — and his characters already marching across the screen — a movie of his life is clearly in order. Properly handled, the film could give an abused and neglected genius his full due while offering a fascinating glimpse into one of the most vibrant and creative eras in pop cultural history.

Which brings us to Mark Evanier's

sumptious book:

It's a long-overdue tribute to this truly titanic talent (The Michelangelo of Manga) ...

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