A story is nothing without characters. The people in this movie might as well have been mannequins.
But is that not part of the point--that in comparison, HAL was more human than the humans? I find that idea all the more credible when one considers that all the human deaths in the film are depicted in a dispassionate, clinical fashion (or off-screen entirely), while HAL's death is drawn-out and excruciatingly in our faces.
There may be other threads with this information. If so, my apologies. Apparently, “2001: A Space Odyssey” will be getting a limited theatrical presentation in May:
The above article has this information: “2001: A Space Odyssey will return to select U.S. theaters in 70mm beginning May 18.” I have not yet seen an exact schedule for these screenings.
This sounds worthwhile. It'll probably be in IMAX in San Francisco, so I might make a trip of it.
Not that I haven't memorized the film already, much like CITIZEN KANE or SOME LIKE IT HOT.
Interesting about the lost footage. I would prefer the new material be included as extras on future home video releases. I see no reason to reinsert any of that into the film itself.
Right. Dont make the same.mistake MGM made with GBU; reinsertion of a scene the director removed after the premiere to improve the pacing.
I was 11 when it came out. Saw it 3 times. This is a MUST SEE on the big screen.
Oh that HUGE screen at the Casino Cinerama, London, the plush seats, the smell of the place, I saw it three times there in 1968. I already have it on Blu-ray in the big Kubrick box (with book) that I bought the Christmas before last, only £20! I read on some site that the new 50th Anniversary Blu-ray (& UHD) might be delayed, July, September? There's been no official announcement from Warner yet. The 50th Anniversary trailer looks pretty ropey to me, but it's only a trailer.
Without reading the whole thing it was explained in 2010 that Hal was following it's program. Achieve mission success at all cost. Second HAL wasn't sentient, thus not capable of making conscious decisions.
Long article for a rainy afternoon when you're ready to contemplate ethics: Did HAL commit murder?
Cool question. I think the simplest answer would be, yes, he murdered. But the condition is that if HAL can be considered to be an artificial analogue of a living being, then he/it would be guilty by reason of insanity.
I have the Taschen book, The Making of Stanley Kubrick's '2001: A Space Odyssey' still in its shrink-wrap. I only bought it because Amazon were selling it for only £16 for a week or so, I see it's £211 now. I will open it one day.
Remember I, Robot? The robot saved Will Smith instead of the little kid from drowning because it made a calculated decision survival rate for Smith was more probable. Was that murder? (Or perhaps legally man slaughter?)
Remember I, Robot? The robot saved Will Smith instead of the little kid from drowning because it made a calculated decision survival rate for Smith was more probable. Was that murder? (Or perhaps legally man slaughter?)
Yes, I remember that one. To the robot it all came down to just simple numbers. It was almost reminiscent of the kind of ethical conundrums that Harlan Ellison liked to put in his stories. But I'm certainly not comparing that movie to an Ellison story. I wouldn't go as far as to say the movie was all bad, but after waiting so many years for someone to make a film from the book, I think it could have been SO much more. Maybe some day someone will tackle it again.
Remember I, Robot? The robot saved Will Smith instead of the little kid from drowning because it made a calculated decision survival rate for Smith was more probable. Was that murder? (Or perhaps legally man slaughter?)
Yes, I remember that one. To the robot it all came down to just simple numbers. It was almost reminiscent of the kind of ethical conundrums that Harlan Ellison liked to put in his stories. But I'm certainly not comparing that movie to an Ellison story. I wouldn't go as far as to say the movie was all bad, but after waiting so many years for someone to make a film from the book, I think it could have been SO much more. Maybe some day someone will tackle it again.
As a stand-alone movie outside of the original story its based on I really like the film. I think its very entertaining. My only issue was the confusing ending.
As a stand-alone movie outside of the original story its based on I really like the film. I think its very entertaining. My only issue was the confusing ending.
That's probably the best way to approach it--as something vaguely inspired by the book. I should watch it again soon. It's still a pretty cool premise for a movie.
