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 Posted:   Jan 8, 2018 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

It's weird...I can't see Adam's post, though it shows he's written something.

Anyway, I just wanted to make sure to thank Adam again, what you did is going to really inspire my own writing and you are awesome!

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2018 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Seems to be. The Intrada online blurb states "violins intentionally taceting". I had to check the verb "to tacet" but apparently it means "musically silenced".

Pedant alert! wink

It's kind of odd to use "tacet" this way, since it usually means a group in the orchestra which doesn't play in a particular movement or section of a larger piece. (For the musicians taceting, it kind of means "take a break - just sit there and don't pick your nose.")

My assumption is that there were no violins called for these recording sessions, since the score wasn't written for them. So that's not really "taceting" - that's just plain not there. You don't say "the piano tacets" in a string quartet. (Or at least I certainly don't. wink)

Pedant mode off.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2018 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Pedant mode on - I actually had a picture in my mind of the violin section being brought in just to sit there and do nothing.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2018 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Pedant mode on - I actually had a picture in my mind of the violin section being brought in just to sit there and do nothing.

Like an homage to John Cage....

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2018 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   gyorgyL   (Member)

To my ears some of the tracks sounds blurred ..."Signals" from 1:35 to the end " Refueling stop" at 0:21 ..."End Title" ... frown

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2018 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

I thought I'd go look up Frontiers on Amazon, since it's a CD I've never had.

http://amzn.to/2CFj0fw

And I came across this gem in the reviews:

"Back in the 1970's I was hanging out with Paul Wunder (R.I.P.) who hosted a "Soundtracks" program on WBAI-FM. Paul's home had the most extensive library of vinyl movie scores I had ever seen!

Paul filled me in on an obscure NY urban legend that claimed that Jerry Goldsmith was a pen name for Leonard Bernstein who did not want to admit to his love of film scoring. OK- it is safe to say that there are no 40-foot alligators in the sewers either. Nevertheless, it was a bit of a compliment at the time."



That's a new one to me. Anybody ever hear of this "legend" before?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2018 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

My review of it:

http://www.movie-wave.net/damnation-alley/

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2018 - 6:40 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Excellent review! I received my copy this morning and was so happy with the blend of synths and orchestra, effects and...of all things, some really beautiful music in between the apocalyptic slayings.

This also is something different from the scores I own of Jerry, in a consistently interesting way. It's also one of the overall most fun by the maestro.

Adam you rule, thanks so much...it's like you had an intuition.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2018 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Hoooo boy, since you like this one I've got a TON more "jagged" brassy 70s Goldsmith to recommend... smile

And yes indeed, another wonderful review from my favorite film music reviewer -- kudos, James!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2018 - 8:04 PM   
 By:   Adam.   (Member)

Excellent review! I received my copy this morning and was so happy with the blend of synths and orchestra, effects and...of all things, some really beautiful music in between the apocalyptic slayings.

Adam you rule, thanks so much...it's like you had an intuition.


You're welcome, WA. Glad you're enjoying it.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2018 - 11:01 PM   
 By:   simon377   (Member)

I thought I'd go look up Frontiers on Amazon, since it's a CD I've never had.

http://amzn.to/2CFj0fw

And I came across this gem in the reviews:

"Back in the 1970's I was hanging out with Paul Wunder (R.I.P.) who hosted a "Soundtracks" program on WBAI-FM. Paul's home had the most extensive library of vinyl movie scores I had ever seen!

Paul filled me in on an obscure NY urban legend that claimed that Jerry Goldsmith was a pen name for Leonard Bernstein who did not want to admit to his love of film scoring. OK- it is safe to say that there are no 40-foot alligators in the sewers either. Nevertheless, it was a bit of a compliment at the time."



That's a new one to me. Anybody ever hear of this "legend" before?


Ha. That is hysterical. Frontiers is a great album. I've had it since it was released.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2018 - 6:58 AM   
 By:   Orrence   (Member)

For those who may be interested , the following link is to a video which Leigh has put together, showing a short process 'walk-through' of one of the synth restoration cues from Damnation Alley. https://www.facebook.com/LeighPhillipsMusic/videos/1819317508087551/

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2018 - 7:04 AM   
 By:   patrick_runkle   (Member)

For those who may be interested , the following link is to a video which Leigh has put together, showing a short process 'walk-through' of one of the synth restoration cues from Damnation Alley. https://www.facebook.com/LeighPhillipsMusic/videos/1819317508087551/

Thanks for the link as this is absolutely fantastic.

And I do not intend to criticize in any way as I think this release is amazing. But it seems to me that the recreated synth lines are mixed a bit lower on the new album than they are in the movie. This video demonstrates a little bit of what I'm talking about, where the "raw" mix sounds a little bit more like the movie.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2018 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

For those who may be interested , the following link is to a video which Leigh has put together, showing a short process 'walk-through' of one of the synth restoration cues from Damnation Alley. https://www.facebook.com/LeighPhillipsMusic/videos/1819317508087551/

Thanks for the link as this is absolutely fantastic.

And I do not intend to criticize in any way as I think this release is amazing. But it seems to me that the recreated synth lines are mixed a bit lower on the new album than they are in the movie. This video demonstrates a little bit of what I'm talking about, where the "raw" mix sounds a little bit more like the movie.


This is really interesting.

I must say, I got this release as a gift from Adam and find it super interesting (and at times just plain FUN!). It gave me insight into maestro Jerry's integration of synths into his scoring style. It's also put together really well imo, with quite an eye catching presentation.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2018 - 9:32 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

For those who may be interested , the following link is to a video which Leigh has put together, showing a short process 'walk-through' of one of the synth restoration cues from Damnation Alley. https://www.facebook.com/LeighPhillipsMusic/videos/1819317508087551/

Thanks for the link as this is absolutely fantastic.

And I do not intend to criticize in any way as I think this release is amazing. But it seems to me that the recreated synth lines are mixed a bit lower on the new album than they are in the movie. This video demonstrates a little bit of what I'm talking about, where the "raw" mix sounds a little bit more like the movie.


I'm not even going to look at that link. Both myself and Heath posted earlier that the synth seemed a LOT more prominent in the original, but now I've got so used to the new DAMNATION ALLEY that I don't want to be reminded of how it was actually mixed in the film soundtrack back in '77. That is absolutely no slight to Leigh Phillips. I've already said that the new Intrada is one of the most listenable presentations of a score I've heard in years.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2018 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

If you like Damnation Alley check out other scores from this period like Twilight's Last Gleaming, Capricorn One, The Swarm and Logan's Run.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2018 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

I've been reveling in this title. After all the years we've speculated about the feasibility of re-recording the synth tracks, here it is. A dream come true.

 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2018 - 12:58 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I still listen to this every day. It’s so damn good.

I’ve been making a mid 70’s-early 80’s playlist and this fits in beautifully with other cues from Black Sunday, The Car, Duel, Close Encounters, Jaws and Capricorn One among others.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2018 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   alexp   (Member)

...it seems to me that the recreated synth lines are mixed a bit lower on the new album than they are in the movie.

Listening to a new performance of score that we love so much can be jarring because we are so used to the original performance as heard in the film or soundtrack album.

I suspect that the audio engineers behind the Intrada CD had that in mind when they were mixing the orchestra parts with the reconstructed synth parts—the lower the synth parts are in the mix, the less jarring that the listener may think the synth parts are.

 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2018 - 6:19 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

If you like Damnation Alley check out other scores from this period like Twilight's Last Gleaming, Capricorn One, The Swarm and Logan's Run.

Indeed. Twilight's Last Gleaming in particular, imo. Still a pretty underrated score. The original album sounds fine, but it's donkey's years old now and could do with a modern mixing upgrade.

 
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