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 Posted:   Feb 10, 2017 - 1:57 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Maybe they have mixed this series with Alcoa premiere and again it's a mistake.

Yes, that seems fairly obvious. He obviously didn't do an episode in 1957, for example, before he even got a TV contract. Someone is confusing these with the later ALCOA PREMIERE.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2017 - 2:45 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Maybe they have mixed this series with Alcoa premiere and again it's a mistake.

Yes, that seems fairly obvious. He obviously didn't do an episode in 1957, for example, before he even got a TV contract. Someone is confusing these with the later ALCOA PREMIERE.


Curious though about those other 2 (non Alcoa related in the name) imdb entries.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2017 - 2:57 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Curious though about those other 2 (non Alcoa related in the name) imdb entries.

Well, there seems to be a connection between two of them: "Alcoa Theatre was syndicated together with Goodyear Theatre as Award Theatre."

As for that ONE STEP BEYOND thing, I have no idea what that is or how Williams' name got involved. Surely, if he had written a theme for this, we would have known about it by now. Also, if he had written a theme, he would also have written some episode scores. Since it is not credited in the episode, and since the theme we hear doesn't really sound anything like Williams, I suggest just letting that one go.

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2017 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Here's a hypothetical:

A lot of these compilation shows were made up of failed pilots for potential series. Some of these had their own theme music/closing credits music that was replaced when gobbled up, so hypothetically Williams could have done a theme that got replaced by the _______ Theatre series theme

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I didn't want to go back throug the thread to check, but I just found:

"Alcoa Premiere"
Episode: "The Jail"
Johnny Williams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfVRVbvGSZc


The eisode begins around two minutes in and features some good scoring. I haven't checked anything other than that yet. When I saw the compsoer missing from IMDb, I immediately went to the end credits to find it so I could submit the addition to IMDb.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2017 - 4:39 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

The eisode begins around two minutes in and features some good scoring. I haven't checked anything other than that yet. When I saw the compsoer missing from IMDb, I immediately went to the end credits to find it so I could submit the addition to IMDb.

Williams scored all of the ALCOA episodes (the one and only time he did this in his career), and the episode you mention is listed in the ALCOA thread (whose link is in the first post of this thread):

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=111325&forumID=1&archive=0

But it was not available on Youtube at that time, so thanks for alerting us to it.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2017 - 5:07 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Goldsmith is shown for one on IMDb.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2017 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Goldsmith is shown for one on IMDb.

Erroneously. Check out the ALCOA thread.

 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2017 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

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 Posted:   Feb 26, 2017 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

"Wagon Train"
Episode: "Those Who Stay Behind"
Music Score
Johnny Williams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qZQSE7DMQ

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 27, 2017 - 2:32 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

"Wagon Train"
Episode: "Those Who Stay Behind"
Music Score
Johnny Williams

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qZQSE7DMQ


Good to see that it's out on Youtube. I got this from a private source awhile back. Williams returned to WAGON TRAIN as a freelancer, to do one episode in season 7 and one in 8. He must have had a good time when he did those 4 second season episodes under contract several years earlier.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2017 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I've updated the first post with some tidbits.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2018 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

I've written about this at jwfan but thought to write it here, in case more people see it and give their opinion.

about the KCET logo:

I've listened to some KCET logos from the 70s and I found one that could be Williams.

What do you think?

It was the only one which was longer and orchestral, and also has a long melody with those large leaps in melody which is a Williams characteristic.

(at 0.42' and on)


Mr Eldridge?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2018 - 11:10 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Wow, this episode of Alcoa Premiere "THE FUGITIVE EYE" is quite beautifully scored by Johnny Williams.

This clip has a nice sampling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq5hlELiHYY

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2018 - 2:35 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Wow, this episode of Alcoa Premiere "THE FUGITIVE EYE" is quite beautifully scored by Johnny Williams.

This clip has a nice sampling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq5hlELiHYY


Thanks. I'll see if I can add it to my extensive ALCOA thread:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=111325&forumID=1&archive=0

That's one of the shows I'm missing.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2018 - 2:36 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

It was the only one which was longer and orchestral, and also has a long melody with those large leaps in melody which is a Williams characteristic.

Could be, but it sounds a bit skimpy in the orchestration. Plus, as you know, KCET has found no evidence of Williams' involvement in their research on this issue.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2018 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Thor, can you add to your list CBS Playhouse and the episode "Saturday Adoption"?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0445698/?ref_=nm_flmg_com_100

it's in liner notes of Jane Eyre and i remember someone had mentioned it here in this board.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2018 - 2:10 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

The Haga Odysseys

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2018 - 2:45 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thor, can you add to your list CBS Playhouse and the episode "Saturday Adoption"?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0445698/?ref_=nm_flmg_com_100

it's in liner notes of Jane Eyre and i remember someone had mentioned it here in this board.


Sure!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2019 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Thor, have you got the book on Williams edited by Audissino?
On page 44 in an article it has a list of some television work of the composer taken from imdb on Februrary 2018.
It lists a "Goodyear Theatre" episode from 1960 (it's still there at the composer's imdb credits)
and a "one step beyond" episode from 1961. (this is not there now)

Can we find anything more about these?

It also says in the article that he wrote episodic music for The Carol Burnett Show, 1968.

 
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