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 Posted:   Jul 19, 2013 - 7:02 PM   
 By:   Krakatoa   (Member)

Thanks for giving us the original soundtrack. Listened to it twice and have to admit I'm liking it more than the original album, which I haven't heard in twenty years.

I agree - there's just an immediacy and rawness to the original tracks, which is just missing from the very smoothed out and heavily reverbed album.



Thanks so much for making this treasure available on album after 37 years!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2013 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

While my reaction to Williams' music is completely different (his music touches me like few others'), sometimes, RM, that's all you can say. It leaves you cold. No further explanation necessary. I'm sure there are several on this board who will gladly take that hour of fatigue and boredom off your hands.

I, too, have been deeply touched by Mr. Williams' music, right from the beginning with Tuesday's Theme from Bachelor Flat. His harmonic language just spoke to me instantly. I enjoyed his other 60s scores, but I really fell in love with his music with The Reivers. After that, he could do little wrong, although some of his more outre scores didn't "get" to me, like Images. But if he had written nothing but The Accidental Tourist, which I found incredibly perfect for the film and just as a listening experience, then he'd be in my pantheon. But there's so much more than that. I haven't loved all of his output in the last decade - I thought A.I. was the last true masterpiece from him (I'm sure others will differ), but his themes resonate with me in a very strong way (ET, for example), and when that happens, for me, he's the equal of anyone anywhere and that includes Rozsa, Herrmann, Newman, Friedhofer, Goldsmith, and my other favorites - although I find those kinds of popularity contests off-putting and not productive at all.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2013 - 9:02 PM   
 By:   Koray Savas   (Member)

Any chance of The Reivers getting a reissue/expansion?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2013 - 9:24 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Any chance of The Reivers getting a reissue/expansion?

It would be a dream project, but I believe others have tried and failed.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2013 - 9:59 PM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

Any chance of The Reivers getting a reissue/expansion?

It would be a dream project, but I believe others have tried and failed.


MV indicated in a thread a couple of weeks ago that the rights were a total mess on this one. He implied it would be a long time coming... if ever. Too bad, because it really is a lovely score.

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 12:02 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I thought A.I. was the last true masterpiece from [Williams]

I read this just now, having just watched the film tonight on Blu-Ray. Boy, that's a magnificent score. The early "hide and seek" sequence has the perfect musical depiction: the music is both buoyant and unsettling, with its charming but off-kilter melody and quirky rhythms. And the final piece is absolutely haunting, a gorgeous melody performed in a somehow hollow manner. I don't know if the piano has been treated in some way, or miked oddly, or it's just a performance technique, but the strange distance of the piano, combined with the lilting melody, is a masterful stroke.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 12:40 AM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

. . . a gorgeous melody performed in a somehow hollow manner.




For a second, I thought you were going to mention Josh Groban, who has a talent for making any gorgeous melody sound somehow hollow.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   Jon C   (Member)

Thank you Bruce. I have been listening to my copy and enjoy it very much.

Jon

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   crogrr   (Member)

Have these all shipped? I live in LA County so I normally get quickly. Haven't received yet.

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I'd like to chime in on my unabashed adoration for Williams's AI score. It's definitely in his "master class" scale of writing, easily in his top three scores from the last twenty years. Would give teeth to have a more complete version of the score, as the original album, while good, is missing all too much (and the edits on "The Moon Rising" bother me a bit).

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2013 - 8:05 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Have these all shipped? I live in LA County so I normally get quickly. Haven't received yet.

Yes, I stated above - all shipped last Tuesday - there is simply no predicting the USPS - I have a close friend who mailed some bills, time sensitive bills from Santa Monica to LA - none arrived at their destinations. We can track your package if you drop me an e-mail.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2013 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   jonnyquest   (Member)

Totally wonderful release Bruce, thanks so much for helping me get my copy.

I had houseguests this weekend and couldn't dive into it as deeply as I wanted...but they're gone now! These things are just treasure for the fans. Just saying "Thank You" is barely adequate, but it's heartfelt.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I came home from work tonight and found those two dirty, no-good Williams brothers (Patrick and John) lying in wait for me by the front door, and they done sprung a sneaky varmint attack on me!
I paid top dollar for that John Williams boy, but that no good, yella Patrick fella could be bought for ten buckaroos!
Why if I ain't gunna slide them old boys into my player tunite and give their hollerin' a good ol' slingaroo! Yee Haaaaa! smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

Williams' OST recording for The Missouri Breaks has never been my favorite - a nice love theme and nothing more to speak of, really - and the . I really enjoyed disc 1 of this though - it was a revelation, since I had never seen the movie. The music has a little more kick and the instrumentation is much more to my liking. I had a great time listening to this today, and will likely listen to it again tomorrow (unless my new LLL releases arrive tonight, in which case I will listen again on Wednesday) smile

Thanks for the release, Bruce!

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

My dynamic Williams duo arrived this afternoon. And the jewel case for Butch & Sundance was broken. So, quite obviously, since they arrived in the same package, I have to rate both Missouri Breaks and Butch & Sundance releases as ZERO STARS. And start a WHOLE NEW THREAD about how HORRIFYING this is and how HORRIBLE Kritzerland is because they did not anticipate this comment and proactively mail me a replacement and/or send armed guards along with the package when they mailed it.


Meanwhile, back to reality.


I'm playing the first disc of Missouri Breaks and finding it utterly delightful. I had never heard the old LP (or seen the movie) and, so far, I just love it. Looking forward to hearing how the LP program differs. And then I still have this Butch & Sundance to discover. What a great day! Thank you, Bruce.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

My Butch & Sundance jewel case was smashed too! No damage to the disc, but I had to put a new CD holder insert inside it !!! God damn!!! Didn't that just goan 'n' ruin my whole lily livered YEAR!!!
You hold that Kimmel fella down, That Neil Guy, and I'll beat the livin' tar outta him! wink

re Missouri Breaks...

It's exactly the same, in a completely different way!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2013 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   eggerty31   (Member)

This arrived today and am listening to it now.
This is a different John Williams to what I'm used to from him and I have to say I like it. Enjoying it a lot.

Many thanks for releasing this Bruce, and many, many thanks for finding me a copy. It's very much appreciated.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2013 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

It's a bonus that this full score release features new thematic material by Williams, that he left off the LP re-recording.
Pretty cool!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2013 - 5:20 AM   
 By:   Kim Tong   (Member)

This arrived today and am listening to it now. This is a different John Williams to what I'm used to from him and I have to say I like it. Enjoying it a lot.

Well, mine arrived yesterday and I have listened to it twice. I own the LP and never purchased the Varese until I was able to pick it up at Family Dollar for $4. I have to say at this time I like the original LP presentation. Some of you are talking about the "rawness", that is what I do not like. I like most everything Williams composes, but this is bottom of the stack for me. I had to try it to see what new was left off the rerecording, but I believe I will hold on to this for trade/sale. Thor has it right in some cases, not every score needs a complete release, this one just seems to go on and on. I also never really cared for THE REIVERS.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2013 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I do agree that the LP re-recording is an all-round more polished and fuller experience.
It was great the way Williams took what was some pretty raw materials and fashioned a much richer experience.
The beauty of this release is being given the opportunity to have the best of both worlds.
I will always be more used to the older release, but it's great to hear the differences that exist within Williams' original take on things.

 
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