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 Posted:   Jan 23, 2016 - 4:44 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'm currently reading some of the Gerry Conway run on Justice League of America (circa 1982-83) and in the search for supplementary material, found this revealing interview with Gerry Conway. I think every comic creator gets treated like dirt:

http://jlasatellite.blogspot.com/2008/07/jla-satellite-interview-with-gerry.html

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2016 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Finally started reading the new trade paperback of BATMAN: CATACLYSM (not to be confused with the recent film) which pretty much ends my prime Batman interest. By 1998 I was not interested in having to follow every Batbook to find out the storyline but having said storyline in one nicely-published package--not to mention eighteen years of distance-- I find myself really enjoying this story. It would be the last or nearly last run for longtime Bat scribes Doug "Hero of Jim Phelps" Moench and the superb Chuck Dixon so unless you younger folks out there have any more recent Batman comics to recommend, I might be at the end of my Batman rope.

Big pictures of Cataclysm to follow....

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2016 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

Finally started reading the new trade paperback of BATMAN: CATACLYSM (not to be confused with the recent film) which pretty much ends my prime Batman interest. By 1998 I was not interested in having to follow every Batbook to find out the storyline but having said storyline in one nicely-published package--not to mention eighteen years of distance-- I find myself really enjoying this story. It would be the last or nearly last run for longtime Bat scribes Doug "Hero of Jim Phelps" Moench and the superb Chuck Dixon so unless you younger folks out there have any more recent Batman comics to recommend, I might be at the end of my Batman rope.

Big pictures of Cataclysm to follow....


I haven't read Batman: Cataclysm before. I was still taking a break from the Bat titles at the time. I will have to check out the trade at some point. I didn't get back into the Batbooks until No Man's Land, which I enjoyed quite a bit once I got past its ridiculous premise.

Speaking of Batman, did you see there is another volume of Norm Breyfogle's Batman work coming out? A nice companion to the current volume. http://www.amazon.com/Legends-Dark-Knight-Breyfogle-Batman/dp/1401267637?ie=UTF8&colid=2Y0F0IA211VGI&coliid=IWUES5KFH1HHX&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl

DC also has an upcoming Batman book featuring the work of Alan Brennert that I am very curious to check out. http://www.amazon.com/Tales-Batman-Alan-Brennert/dp/1401263496?ie=UTF8&colid=2Y0F0IA211VGI&coliid=IP4VR5O41E4X0&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2016 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I'll most likely go after the Road to No Man's Land volumes and decide from there. Yes, part of why I've avoided the No Man's Land arc is because of the improbable concept though with the kind of "leaders" the world is capable of producing, maybe it's NOT so improbable at all.

Plus, it's what, five friggin' volumes?!?

BtW, I never did see the Batman vs. Superman movie (yet on a Marvel-related note, I've seen Civil War twice!).

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2016 - 6:55 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

BtW, I never did see the Batman vs. Superman movie

May I ask why? It only has the best Bat-action ever. All that shakin'-the-cam crap in CW? Nope. The Batman scene in BvS is something to behold.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

BtW, I never did see the Batman vs. Superman movie

May I ask why? It only has the best Bat-action ever. All that shakin'-the-cam crap in CW? Nope. The Batman scene in BvS is something to behold.


Just bad timing! I was out of the country at the end of March so for the first two weeks BvS was in theatres, I was not able to see it, unless I wanted to see it dubbed in German. wink I still hope to catch it at a dollar theatre or something but I do want to see it. My not seing it has nothing to do with the numerous fanboy bitches on the other side of this board hating the Zimmer score--Jesus, they're so damned musically conservative at this forum. mad

As for the Marvel vs. DC fanboy battles, I don't feel the need to choose sides, as I've never fallen for that divisive nonsense. smile

I enjoy heroes from both comic (and cinematic) universes. Remember, I was the one person who was thoroughly entertained by both Age of Ultron and Man of Steel. wink

Speaking of Marvel (on a DC thread no less!) I have to grab a copy of Avengers: Under Siege! It dupes a lot of material I already have in The Once and Future Kang, but what the hey!

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

I also enjoy both Marvel and DC. I did like Civil War, but I think it's a bit overrated. They really had to simplify the theme in order to fit the film. I don't mind some cam shakin' to give something that edgy/gritty feel (I've long defended it), but some of the shakin' in this movie was right up there with that one Jason Bourne movie (Supremacy, I think). Just not cool!

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2016 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

BTW, I have almost every issue of the Grant-Breyfogle run and really like their stories even if the whole "War on Drugs" stuff that often spills over into the stories isn't always what I'm in the mood to read. Too bad the "War on Drugs" doesn't widen to include the pharmaceutical companies that are constantly pushing their poison on everyone; Batman--or perhaps Bruce Wayne-- would have his hands full taking those villains down. wink

Enjoying the heck out of Cataclysm and Second Chances; I feel that the Max Allan Collins era is unjustly maligned, as we've discussed previously in this thread most fine. smile

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2016 - 1:35 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

I'll most likely go after the Road to No Man's Land volumes and decide from there. Yes, part of why I've avoided the No Man's Land arc is because of the improbable concept though with the kind of "leaders" the world is capable of producing, maybe it's NOT so improbable at all.

Plus, it's what, five friggin' volumes?!?

BtW, I never did see the Batman vs. Superman movie (yet on a Marvel-related note, I've seen Civil War twice!).


Yeah, No Man's Land is a pretty long story. IIRC the storyline was told over a full year in pretty much all the Bat books, so that is a lot of comics! Although there are several overarching storylines that unfold, for the most part, the stories were a series of vignettes, so you could read just a few issues and feel satisfied. My recommendation is to give the first volume a try. If that doesn't win you over, I doubt the remaining volumes will.

All this talk of Batman books inspired me to pull this book out, which I hadn't read since the 1980s:



Mike Barr's story is entertaining, and Jerry Bingham's art is quite good, but it is very Neal Adams inspired. If an artist is going to take inspiration, he might as well take inspiration from one of the best. Plus, the story featured Ra's Al Ghul, which Adams had a hand in creating. Anyway, entertaining story, and Mark Hamill's introduction (which was written before he was cast as the Joker for Batman: TAS) is a lot of fun.

I agree with you about Civil War being a great film. I have also seen it twice, and hope to see it at least once more before it leaves the theater. I have also seen Batman vs. Superman, which I thought was mostly mediocre. Nowhere near as bad as the rotten tomatoes score suggests, but hardly a classic.

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2016 - 6:44 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I've not read Son of the Demon though I must have run across it numerous times over the years in many a comic shop. I am a Mike W. Barr fan, specifically his run on volume one of DC's Star Trek. He worked wonders revisiting the "Mirror, Mirror" episode and updating it to the Star Trek III era. Jerry Bingham iirc did some fine work when inked by Bob Layton in a few Iron Man stories whenever John Romita Jr was either off that book or otherwise unavailable.

As for No Man's Land I will most likely get the first volume of "Road to..." if nothing else since I have a few of the Detective Comics floppies included in that volume.

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2016 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Got into a Batman mood as I seemingly do every summer in recent years and am halfway through CATACLYSM--just finished the Blackgate prison one-shot--This story arc is interesting in that we get to see what each character in the Batman was doing before the quake hit and their immediate actions afterward. I am enjoying this story as much as one can "enjoy" an extended atory about a city being leveled.

Having said that, I prefer Batman being a detective; going through his storied tropes while interacting with his numerous enemies and allies. I get the sense that Alan Grant and Doug Moench, both longtime Bat scribes and greatly admired comc writers of yours truly--are only following their orders with their contrbutions, particularly Grant, who has expressed his disdain for another crossover, KNIGHTFALL, in an interview I read and I believe linked in this very thread.

I don't see myself moving on to the additional seven volumes of "Road to..." and "No Man's Land" anytime soon, though I wouldn't rule it out in the future. Can anyone who's read these numerous volumes tell me just how long it takes for Gotham City to be rebuilt after these events as far as which issues mark that occasion?

 
 Posted:   Jul 4, 2016 - 11:28 PM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

Got into a Batman mood as I seemingly do every summer in recent years and am halfway through CATACLYSM--just finished the Blackgate prison one-shot--This story arc is interesting in that we get to see what each character in the Batman was doing before the quake hit and their immediate actions afterward. I am enjoying this story as much as one can "enjoy" an extended atory about a city being leveled.

Having said that, I prefer Batman being a detective; going through his storied tropes while interacting with his numerous enemies and allies. I get the sense that Alan Grant and Doug Moench, both longtime Bat scribes and greatly admired comc writers of yours truly--are only following their orders with their contrbutions, particularly Grant, who has expressed his disdain for another crossover, KNIGHTFALL, in an interview I read and I believe linked in this very thread.

I don't see myself moving on to the additional seven volumes of "Road to..." and "No Man's Land" anytime soon, though I wouldn't rule it out in the future. Can anyone who's read these numerous volumes tell me just how long it takes for Gotham City to be rebuilt after these events as far as which issues mark that occasion?


It has been a long time since I read those issues, and so I am writing this from memory. As I recall, the last chunk of No Man's Land addresses how Gotham City returns to civilization. Once the story was over, I don't recall there was much time, if at all, showing Gotham City being rebuilt. I am pretty sure things more or less returned to business as usual very shortly after NML concluded.

 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2016 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

It has been a long time since I read those issues, and so I am writing this from memory. As I recall, the last chunk of No Man's Land addresses how Gotham City returns to civilization. Once the story was over, I don't recall there was much time, if at all, showing Gotham City being rebuilt. I am pretty sure things more or less returned to business as usual very shortly after NML concluded.

Thanks for the reply. I don't know how good your memory is for things like this but I'll bet your recollection of Knightfall is probably more clear than it is for No Man's Land...or maybe it isn't. wink

 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2016 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Yeah, definitely not thrilled with Cataclysm. The destruction of Gotham City--and ones fantasy world--doesn't exactly appeal to me. I also didn't relish the thought of takng on *seven* more volumes of this stuff with No Man's Land. However, I did enjoy most of the art and Chuck Dixon did his level best to tell some interesting stories. Chuck Dixon is the most underrated Batman writer of all time! I love his tough take on Batman's world.

Reading Cataclysm has me searching for more Catwoman stuff with that eye-catching Jim Balent art; his has to be the most appealing Catwoman rendition for me. I am also interested in picking up some recent-ish NIGHTWING comics. I like what little I've read even if the art by Scott McDaniel isn't my favorite.

Now I'm off to re-read Batman: Second Chances.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Now reading- Knightfall Volume Three: KnightsEnd.

Haven't read many of these issues so it's nice to piece together those missing chapters, like Bruce Wayne's retraining. The "Prodigal" stuff is also fun to read again. Batman comics mostly always delight.

Atrocious Kelley Jones cover, though; even though he's an artist I greatly admire. smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

I never understood Kelley Jones' penchant for 20-inch-tall ears.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I never understood Kelley Jones' penchant for 20-inch-tall ears.

I don't mind the ears so much as Azbats' gas-bloated gut--what in the name of The Order of St. Dumas "is that all about"?

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I thought he was twerking.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2016 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

I never understood Kelley Jones' penchant for 20-inch-tall ears.

I don't mind the ears so much as Azbats' gas-bloated gut--what in the name of The Order of St. Dumas "is that all about"?


Yes, I see that. That's a case of early onset Liefeld-itis, when a character's side and front are both visible, inexplicably, at the same time to the unaided eye. big grin



Here, you can see her rear, too. That has to be less than comfortable.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2016 - 4:46 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Odin's Beard, that looks awful! No wonder Marvel Comics from 1985 on is dead to me. DC in the '90s, at least what I have in my collection, didn't give in to those "artistic excesses", though some Batman stuff I have sometimes looks a little dodgy.

 
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