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 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 5:38 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

So glad to see Varese broke up the suites into individual cues for this! I have the itunes version but this persuaded me to throw down for this. I hope the sound has been mastered better. Nice score too... Full of The Kamen touch. Anyone know if there is much missing not on the album?

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 5:47 AM   
 By:   LEONCIO   (Member)

Suspect is one of those soundtracks that gives me more boredom. While I recognize that the film "works", on a CD player, it's really boring until I was fully asleep.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Two questions for anyone who's heard this score:

1) What other Kamen scores could you compare it to, or parts of it?
2) Mostly orchestra, or a fair amount of synths too?

I thank you.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Pretty sure mostly orchestral and I 'd probably compare it too Company Business. It does lack action... Mostly suspense. Couple of good themes though, most notably the end title.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Reading older threads it sounds like it has some of the Die Hard sound.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   The Beach Bum   (Member)


1) What other Kamen scores could you compare it to, or parts of it?


Try to imgine an entire album in the style of Licence To Kill's "His Bloody Valentine" (without the exciting finale, and minus the guitar).


2) Mostly orchestra, or a fair amount of synths too?


It is mostly orchestral with a few Kurzweil cues.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

You can find the suites on youtube, I definitely heard Die Hard trademarks in there. I can't believe I'm buying a score to a Cher movie. But then again, I already own Rent-A-Cop. wink

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

I take it its just the same length as before...its just that they've broken the Suites up?

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

I take it its just the same length as before...its just that they've broken the Suites up?

Yes.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

I take it its just the same length as before...its just that they've broken the Suites up?

Yes.


Thanks. Might still get it for the track separation. Are the 'encore' releases remastered for possible better sound or do they tend to just be the same as their first issues? Ive never bought one yet.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

YUCK! The original SUSPECT (LP) is one of the worst releases in the history of film music, a fragmented, senseless mess equaled only by John Charles's THE QUIET EARTH on Milan. Lots of short suspense cues with no life beyond the movie (which I liked). This is one of those scores that should never ever have been released in the first place.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I must admit this is a Michael Kamen score that does nothing for me (Company Business is another dull score by him that I never really cared for).
I agree they certainly do their jobs in the film, but don't make for great standalone listening experiences.
I'm happy to leave my copy for others to buy wink

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

Well, just finished with film itself. Great score, good movie. Music plays just in right place.
And according to track-list, I noticed that there is probably only one brief cue, that is missing. Sadly, it's very emotional and beautiful cue - scene where Kathleen & Eddie says good-bye, after they leaved file department.
But as I don't own old CD/LP, I can't say it in 100% - maybe it's part of another track and I simply don't notice it...
So, this is another argument to buy this score - it's almost complete! big grin
And as we all knows, that too many people want complete score now )))

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

Great score

No. If that score qualifies as "great", then "great" has lost all meaning.

At best, it's a serviceable score that provides minor suspense and atmosphere in a move that's basically a "talky" thriller/justice procedural, albeit a good one. The individual cues barely register as music, let alone as music that needs to be heard outside its context. I like the film, which I must have seen about half a dozen times over the past 25 years - but the music has no vitality, no backbone, no energy.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   mnrvason   (Member)

Two questions for anyone who's heard this score:

1) What other Kamen scores could you compare it to, or parts of it?
2) Mostly orchestra, or a fair amount of synths too?

I thank you.


I think the closest companion to Suspect would be THE DEAD ZONE. Same ominous use of strings that Kamen did so well. I don't recall much synth at all in this score. It was pretty much all nerve-wracking strings. Creepy stuff!!

SheriffJoe

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   JB Fan   (Member)

@OnlyGoodMusic
In my classification there is 2 types of "great" scores.
1) When the score is great itself. This is scores that works great both in movie and solo.
2) When score works fine (great) in movie.

Sorry, that I don't explained it in previous post. I mean that Suspect is "great" score, that works fine in movie.

It's your opinion, maybe I will agree with it after I will listen actual CD.

But in any case, I love this type of Kamen's music. Unusual, sometime atonal...
I said one time that it's rather hard to start listen Kamen's scores, but if you started, you will listen it 'till the end.

So something tells me, that even after listening, this will still be "great" score.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

I take it its just the same length as before...its just that they've broken the Suites up?

Yes.


Thanks. Might still get it for the track separation. Are the 'encore' releases remastered for possible better sound or do they tend to just be the same as their first issues? Ive never bought one yet.


I only purchased one encore for a release I already owned (Crimes of the heart), and I really can't tell a difference but then again, I thought the original release sounded great to begin with.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

This is a favorite Kamen score when I'm in the mood for a thriller. It makes a great listen. It was my first Kamen - I had it first on cassette and then CD decades ago, and I still listen to it regularly. Well worth a purchase if you like this sort of thing.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 3:31 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

One of my favourite Kamen soundtracks. Ominous and beautiful (and what a fantastic finale!).
Thanks Varese!

I hope it does not sell out before next year since I've spent already (and literally!) a fortune with other labels.

 
 Posted:   Dec 9, 2013 - 4:00 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

You can find the suites on youtube, I definitely heard Die Hard trademarks in there. I can't believe I'm buying a score to a Cher movie. But then again, I already own Rent-A-Cop. wink

You don't own WITCHES OF EASTWICK? Okay, put that on your list of New Year's resolutions.

As for SUSPECT, hearing the first suite on YT this morning, it totally sounds like DIE HARD. Might be worth getting.

 
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