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 Posted:   Dec 17, 2013 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I'm jumping the gun on this one day early just to set up this thread. I have no idea if the teaser will be "awesome" or not -- but I hope it is. Anyway, post your thoughts starting tomorrow, and remember, "Man is a walking pestilence."

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2013 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

Aside from the performances and that doozy of a third act when the apes break free and run amok in San Francisco, I didn't really care for Rise of the Planet of the Apes. I'm curious how this one will look, though, and may check it out if I like what I see from the trailers.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2013 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

I was so disappointed in Tim Burton's "reimagined" version of the original, and it seemed at the time that Fox would lay any further Apes sequels or prequels to rest for good. "Rise" was an unexpected surprise, and I liked it a lot. It will be very interesting to see where they take it from there.

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2013 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

And here it is:

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2013 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Christopher Kinsinger   (Member)

Interesting, but I think it's too short to really get any idea about the picture.
I look forward to seeing more...

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2013 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I'll probably wait for Dawn of the POTA to be on blu-ray before seeing it, I saw Rise in the theater and although it's not a bad movie, it's not a good 'planet of the apes' movie; To me the first four planet of the apes movies are what made me appreciate the franchise, everything that followed failed to capture the spirit and fun of those movies, and dare I say the sneakiness of the political undertones. "Rise" left me wanting a lot more, I doubt Dawn will step it up this time.

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2013 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

As one who is a huge fan of the original movies and felt that Burton's movie was a pile of monkey faeces I was not looking forward to Rise of the PotA. But I thought it was a brilliant movie, truly astonishing. I thought the climax was a tad rushed and there were waaay too many apes at the end (seriously how many apes are there in 'Frisco?).

So personally I cannot wait for Dawn of the PotA!

I still hate the title though.... Dawn comes before Rise doesn't it?? b

 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2013 - 1:19 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

As one who is a huge fan of the original movies and felt that Burton's movie was a pile of monkey faeces I was not looking forward to Rise of the PotA. But I thought it was a brilliant movie, truly astonishing. I thought the climax was a tad rushed and there were waaay too many apes at the end (seriously how many apes are there in 'Frisco?).

So personally I cannot wait for Dawn of the PotA!

I still hate the title though.... Dawn comes before Rise doesn't it?? b


Got serious Deja Vue from that post, Mike wink ....but great points of course, and I too am looking forward to Dawn....but I have to wonder what 3D will add to it all....ah well, will find out soon enough!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2013 - 4:35 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I hope it's good, I thought Rise was the best apes film since the original one.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2013 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

As long as there is no dawn of the programmers that can deliver proper and convincing CGI, my interest in any new Pota-film will not rise.

D.S.

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2014 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Trailer looks great!

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2014 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The amalgamation of live action and CGI is very well done, however, CGI still looks like CGI. The question is can it be overlooked in a craftily layered sandwich?

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2014 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

The amalgamation of live action and CGI is very well done, however, CGI still looks like CGI. The question is can it be overlooked in a craftily layered sandwich?

Well in the previous one I thought the performances behind the CGI were done to great effect. And in all honesty I much prefer this approach than the one they took in Burton's POTA.

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2014 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The tech effects, one suspects, would have left Harryhausen reeling. In fact, it has taken quite a long time to finalise the visuals as they are in the here and now. And I've lost track of the stepwise refinement that's taken place since Pixar and Renderman planted the seed from way back to the present.

I feel that unless the imagery is totally convincing (and that initial shot of Caesar on horseback certainly is not) then it's like taking one step forwards and two steps back.

Burton's film did a good job of character creation using makeup effects. It has that going for it with the exception of, perhaps, Helena Bonham Carter's minimalist 'chimpanzee' makeup effects. I agree it didn't quite make the leap in plot, however, the actors - in particular Tim Roth - bent over backwards in their attempts at performance art. That could be done with this film. The irony is that CGI is too tempting a tool to be left unused. I feel it's use in this new film is just a tempering, or, sharpening of a still fairly blunt instrument. There's still some way to go before even borderline suspension of disbelief is reached. True, there are many instances where we've all seen CGI and not even noticed it was there. I appreciate all that. But we're talking of a complete live-action movie in which every shot has to convince without hesitation.

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2014 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

The trailer for this is awesome. If Rise was Conquest redux, then this is Battle done as it should have been.

I love the original Apes films but Battle is the weakest entry and, due primarily to a very low budget, looks like a TV movie. This looks epic!

 
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