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Dec 18, 2013 - 9:25 PM
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Mr Greg
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I'm going to suggest that over-familiarity bred contempt for the Next Gen Crew...Seven years of TV shows, marketed to within an inch of it's life, followed by 2 great movies...then the third became a TAD tiresome (but ONLY a tad, for me at least)....people were burned out by the time Nemesis came along... ...now, everyone's going to have their own opinion about Nemesis, so I'll keep mine short...it's a decent film...it's just fine...nothing spectacular, but certainly not as bad as it seems to be remembered...but by this point everyone - writers, director, and especially audience, was TNG'd out...it could have been the best ST film of all time and no-one would have cared... ...which is a shame...I'd have liked to see another entry too as well...
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Bull! TNG is the most successful of the Trek shows. It was Voyager and Enterprise that caused Trek to die. People got bored with it. The makers looked like hey got bored with it.
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Dec 19, 2013 - 1:58 AM
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Francis
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I think if Nemesis had performed better (and been a better movie), there could have been more. It's a shame that the TNG crew only got four movies. I think they deserved at least a couple more. As much as I disliked Nemesis, I was really sad to see it end because, while I also liked Kirk, Spock and the gang, TNG was "my" crew that I grew up with. I spent fifteen years following their adventures, and while it was a pretty solid run, I would have loved to seen it go just a little longer and receive a proper send-off like Kirk and Co. got. I got to know the Kirk crew through the movies and enjoyed some of them, Next Gen I grew up with and the first two TNG movies I thought were great (Generations flawed yes, but still fun), Insurrection less so and Nemesis about the worst direction they could have taken TNG. To the OP if you want the answer to why they stopped making them = Nemesis. It was directed by someone who never watched TNG and didn't get 'star trek'. It felt like a bad reunion episode at best instead of a new star trek adventure, and Tom Hardy is easily the least menacing villain ever, they should have made his nanny Ron Perlman the main bad guy and Shinzon simply a ploy. But instead you get two hours of a guy with cramps trying to kidnap Picard. Nemesis had the tagline 'a generation's final journey' on it, as if it were to be the last of the TNG movies, BUT the end of Nemesis clearly keeps the door open for a sequel, had there been a huge box office return I'm sure there would have been like Michael said.
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Dec 19, 2013 - 1:22 PM
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LeHah
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Its not a simple subject like "Well, its because of pay raises" or "Because TNG sucked compared to TOS" or just one thing. The table needs a couple legs to stand on, as the saying goes. Some of the people (actors) were just plain tired of it. Rick Berman (via Twitter) said he was worn out after so many years of Trek. Theres only so much water in the well. Theres also a weird thing about the Trek movies that I've never quite understood. The three most popular films (STII, STIV and First Contact) are the *least* like Trek (And for me, First Contact is as dull as a beige room in a manila folder factory) but since they're the most popular, its assumed the fans wanted more "amped up" films just like them. Look at the humor in STV - the malfunctioning Captains Log is a recycled joke from STIV! - and how STVI is all serious like STII again and ... how Generations is just... an extension of the reverence that STVI ended on and... yeah... I think that hurt the franchise a lot. They peaked early and they continued to recycle and graft old things onto stories and it just didn't work. For all its faults, at least Insurrection was its own thing and Generations was a (very) thin attempt to do Its A Wonderful Life. (And lets face it - the TOS cast members were "hungry" actors when they started their roles. When they got a ST movie, they jumped at the work. Patrick Stewart, Jonathan Frakes, Wil Wheaton... all the TNG actors had already "established" themselves elsewhere in a way and could go elsewhere for work.) The locomotive sorta ran out of steam. I pretty much enjoyed Enterprise for the most part (The Right Stuff meets TOS!) but I was watching the paint peel on Voyager. It was only a matter of time, I guess.
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Mercy and compassion. ahahahahahahahhahahhaha!!!!!!!!!
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