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 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

In honor of the passing of producer Sir Run Run Shaw, who died age 106 in Hong Kong this morning, I listened to the "Blade Runner" score and was pondering Williams' haunting horn fanfare that appears at the beginning of the film, accompanying the green on black Ladd Company logo underlined with 'in association with Sir Run Run Shaw':



I will never forget the eerie feeling of this scrolling out on screen in 70mm six-track Dolby Stereo at the Warner West End, and the effect it had on me back then. Apparently the logo also appeared, white on black, in front of "Outland", and I think "Body Heat" if I remember correctly, but I don't know how widely it was used, and I've often wondered how John Williams came to score it. Does anybody know the history behind this?

Here's the Variety obituary on Sir Run Run Shaw: http://bit.ly/1lNjeAR

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

That John Williams, he sure loves scoring his trees! wink

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   afn   (Member)

And please explain that inexcusable glitch in the brass at the end! How could they choose such a take? Surely a pro player must be able to play these notes correctly?

Everytime I hear it I shake my head in disbelief.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

That John Williams, he sure loves scoring his trees! wink

Aha! Yes, I never made that connection!

A friend just reminded me the logo appears in from of "The Right Stuff", green on white. And further Googling reveals it appeared with "Night Shift", "Police Academy", "A Very Brady Sequel", "Braveheart", "Gone Baby Gone" and "An Unfinished Life", which was as recent as 2005, but I don't know if they still use the lovely John Williams theme.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

And please explain that inexcusable glitch in the brass at the end! How could they choose such a take? Surely a pro player must be able to play these notes correctly?

Everytime I hear it I shake my head in disbelief.


I don't seem to hear what you're talking about. At what time in the video does it occur?

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   afn   (Member)

Oh, not in this version, I've just noticed. But listen to the BODY HEAT version...

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 12:34 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

It's a real crumby recording, isn't it?

-Erik-

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

It's a real crumby recording, isn't it?

-Erik-


Yes it is. Same with the dreamworks logo music...

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

It's a real crumby recording, isn't it?

-Erik-


Yes it is. Same with the dreamworks logo music...


Agree. The DW track sounds warbly and off-speed in every movie I've seen it attached to.

I always liked that sort of questing theme for the Ladd Co. logo but I wouldn't have pegged it as John Williams (though I learned shortly after its introduction that it was).



 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Seeing and hearing that logo always puts me in the perfect mood to watch Blade Runner. The way the tree materializes onscreen as if printed or processed by a computer makes me think of both Blade Runner's artificial animals and the lack of actual greenery anywhere in the polluted future LA of the film, and the red lettering at the bottom also matches the title and word Replicant in the opening scrawl. I also like how the kind of muted optimism of Williams' logo matches that of Vangelis' opening title music - a suggestion of hope that won't be heard again until "Tears in Rain".

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   The Beach Bum   (Member)

Oh, not in this version, I've just noticed. But listen to the BODY HEAT version...

I know the one you mean. I wonder if the wrong (i.e. rejected) take was mistakenly used for Body Heat.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   GoodMusician86   (Member)

That's because Dreamworks IS off pitch. They pitch-shifted / time changed the track for some reason to fit different lengths of the logo.

I think it's the version with the Horn has the correct speed/pitch and the guitar (more common) is sped up and pitched up but can be heard warbling.

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Seeing and hearing that logo always puts me in the perfect mood to watch Blade Runner. The way the tree materializes onscreen as if printed or processed by a computer makes me think of both Blade Runner's artificial animals and the lack of actual greenery anywhere in the polluted future LA of the film, and the red lettering at the bottom also matches the title and word Replicant in the opening scrawl. I also like how the kind of muted optimism of Williams' logo matches that of Vangelis' opening title music - a suggestion of hope that won't be heard again until "Tears in Rain".

^
Well said, Tango. I always thought of this as the 'Blade Runner' logo and was surprised to see it on other films. And I had no idea it was a Williams fanfare; that's why it still seems mysterious to me.

 
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