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 Posted:   Jan 16, 2014 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   MOVIEBUFF   (Member)

Browsing internet sites such as Amazon and E-Bay, I have seen a huge number of soundtracks appearing on the ‘Hallmark’ label, Taras Bulba, Mutiny On The Bounty, Bridge On The River Kwai, Spartacus, 10 Commandments, Big Country, Breakfast at Tiffanys, etc, etc. These seem to originate from the UK. Buyer beware, these are the most appalling transfers from worn out vinyl copies, no attempt made to clean up the sound, they come complete with distortion, clicks, pops, wow, jumps. Obviously copied with the most basic software.
They have reproduced the original artwork, with the exception of some Disney titles, I wonder why?
Ok they may be legal in Europe, but they are a disgrace and an insult to both artists and buyers.
If you get sucked in and buy one of these titles, please return immediately to the seller and demand a full refund.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2014 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I am sure you meant to say "appalling" transfers.

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2014 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Your thread title gives the impression you are issuing a warning about the Soundtrack Collector site. You might want to change it to "Hallmark Buyers Beware" or something like that.

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2014 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

double post

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2014 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   MOVIEBUFF   (Member)

I am sure you meant to say "appalling" transfers.
I stand corrected, damn that spell check. Nothing appealing about these Cds! Cheers.

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2014 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   MOVIEBUFF   (Member)

Your thread title gives the impression you are issuing a warning about the Soundtrack Collector site. You might want to change it to "Hallmark Buyers Beware" or something like that. Certainly did not mean that, I will correct!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2014 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I am sure you meant to say "appalling" transfers.
I stand corrected, damn that spell check. Nothing appealing about these Cds! Cheers.

No worries. Cheers back to you.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2014 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'm waiting for a post that shows the Basil and Moviebuff avatars arm wrestling

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2014 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

I knew when I bought 'Ben-Hur' on the Hallmark label in NYC a few years ago it was bogus - but I wasn't prepared for just how really bad it sounded. Have to agree with this poster totally.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 19, 2014 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

A few days ago at Amoeba Records I picked up the Hallmark PORGY AND BESS soundtrack. Just to add to the general sonic shoddiness, the packaging credits the movie actors, not the actual vocalists: Sidney Poitier instead of McFerrin, for instance. They even credit Sammy Davis Jr., who did do his own singing in the film but is not heard on the album due to contractual reasons, instead of Cab Calloway.

It only cost a few bucks, and it's worth it to me to hear the Previn arrangements of Gershwin, but I'll be glad when a decent-sounding, legitimate release can replace the Hallmark CD. God speed the day.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   MOVIEBUFF   (Member)

Good legit copies of Porgy and Bess do turn up at reasonable prices, you just have to keep looking and wait, but that’s part of the fun in collecting. It’s rare but not as rare as the film itself which has been in legal limbo for around 50 years.
Another question is would we rather have a bad CD transfer from a worn out LP or nothing at all. Personally I don’t buy ‘Public Domain’ videos or CDs. Had too many disappointments in the past.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

I made the mistake of downloading from iTunes Hallmark's version of Nelson Riddle's "The Untouchables" C.D., and was appalled at the shoddy sound quality!!!! There is surface noise on virtually every track (taken from a beat up L.P., I presume).

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2014 - 1:50 AM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

Good legit copies of Porgy and Bess do turn up at reasonable prices, you just have to keep looking and wait, but that’s part of the fun in collecting. It’s rare but not as rare as the film itself which has been in legal limbo for around 50 years.
Another question is would we rather have a bad CD transfer from a worn out LP or nothing at all. Personally I don’t buy ‘Public Domain’ videos or CDs. Had too many disappointments in the past.


That's true, "Porgy and Bess" is no longer as rare as it used to be a few years ago.

Your criticism on bad quality transfers from Hallmark is correct (that is unless they are copying straight from official releases), but there's plenty material on Hallmark CDs (and downloads) that has never been re-issued by the previous owners for fifty years.

Also, public domain is not public domain: there are collectors' labels like Sepia who re-issue public domain material properly mastered and annotated. There's no reason for me to believe that a transfer of a 1930s 78 will sound better on an official release than on a Sepia CD - that is if the original source materials have been lost to time. Unfortunately, Hallmark is not one of those "quality" labels as they are focusing mainly on the readily available big names combined with (most of the time) poor transfers. Still, there's the rare title here and there that's worth exploring...

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2014 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

"Good legit copies" of PORGY AND BESS? Really? On CD, not LP? What do you guys know that I don't know? This damn Hallmark is the first and only PORGY soundtrack CD I've ever seen.

You've sent me scurrying over to Amazon out of curiosity; I do see one or two import CD's, which may or may not be "legit," but which are hardly of reasonable price these days.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2014 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

"Good legit copies" of PORGY AND BESS? Really? On CD, not LP? What do you guys know that I don't know? This damn Hallmark is the first and only PORGY soundtrack CD I've ever seen.

You've sent me scurrying over to Amazon out of curiosity; I do see one or two import CD's, which may or may not be "legit," but which are hardly of reasonable price these days.


I have a Japanese cd issued by the Columbia label several years ago. I also believe there was a Germany release about the same time. These were official label releases.

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2014 - 3:19 AM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

Here's a link to the amazon.co.uk listing of the official European pressing by Sony:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Porgy-Bess-Various/dp/B000026C15/

I don't know why the listing isn't available on amazon.com frown

 
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