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 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I just received this in the mail today and although I have not reviewed it yet, I just had to comment to the serendipity that today is the anniversary of the Battle of Rorke's Drift!

So happy to have this (and KHARTOUM) in HD and with isolated scores and commentaries. What treats!

I did a search and could not find a previous thread on this, so if I missed it, it was not intentional. Otherwise, I guess this as good a place as any to hear from folks who want to discuss the release.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2014 - 11:42 PM   
 By:   profundo   (Member)

Is the isolated score in stereo? I'm guessing only the John Barry score is presented, but I'd love to hear the isolated Zulu "stamps" if that's ever possible.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2014 - 4:42 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I just received this in the mail today and although I have not reviewed it yet, I just had to comment to the serendipity that today is the anniversary of the Battle of Rorke's Drift!

So happy to have this (and KHARTOUM) in HD and with isolated scores and commentaries. What treats!

I did a search and could not find a previous thread on this, so if I missed it, it was not intentional. Otherwise, I guess this as good a place as any to hear from folks who want to discuss the release.



Is this the same as the Paramount Zulu bluray? I've referred to the stunning quality of this a few times, not least in the bluray appreciation thread. Definitely the best "old" film transfer to bluray I've seen so far.

TG

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2014 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Is this the same as the Paramount Zulu bluray? I've referred to the stunning quality of this a few times, not least in the bluray appreciation thread. Definitely the best "old" film transfer to bluray I've seen so far.

No. The colors are less saturated in the TT version, but there's also less DNR. Thus it looks more natural -- whether that's a good thing or not is subjective -- but there's more detail; features are less waxy-looking.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2014 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Is this the same as the Paramount Zulu bluray? I've referred to the stunning quality of this a few times, not least in the bluray appreciation thread. Definitely the best "old" film transfer to bluray I've seen so far.

No. The colors are less saturated in the TT version, but there's also less DNR. Thus it looks more natural -- whether that's a good thing or not is subjective -- but there's more detail; features are less waxy-looking.



I can't fault the Paramount version and was obviously too stunned by the scarlet and pipe-clay uniforms and the clear blue sky to notice the smooth faces! Thanks for the info.

TG

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2014 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

How does the Twilight commentary and special features compare to Paramount's Blu-ray version?


Also, here's an early review of the two Blu-ray ZULU versions.

Link: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/328765-a-sneak-peek-at-zulu-and-khartoum/

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2014 - 4:54 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I'm confused… many commenters on that board mentioned improved stereo sound… I thought that the MGM master only had mono audio? Or are they referring to a dual mono track that is just stronger than the (anemic) processed stereo track on the UK version?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2014 - 8:09 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I'm confused… many commenters on that board mentioned improved stereo sound… I thought that the MGM master only had mono audio? Or are they referring to a dual mono track that is just stronger than the (anemic) processed stereo track on the UK version?

Nope, it's true stereo and sounds great.

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2014 - 8:59 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I've has a chance to watch this and it is marvelous. Beautiful transfer and yes, it is true stereo and sounds wonderful.
Unfortunately, some of the isolated music track is, in fact, an M&E track. The Zulu "stamps" as heard on the album are, of course, nowhere to be found in this movie...they were a "pop" addition to the LP. But the original Zulu folk songs and dances are included on the isolated score track.
A couple of music cues have sound effects (usually very minor) in the mix, but oddly, a couple do not. The scene where all the wagons are overturned is music only with no effects coming through.
Fortunately, the cues where the effects are fairly loud in the original mix (like the wagon cue) are music only.
I never got the British Blu Ray released by Paramount, so I'm glad I didn't because the commentary track and isolated score make this a must have and I would have been sorely tempted to upgrade AGAIN.

 
 Posted:   Jan 31, 2014 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I received this today, and it looks and sounds great! The colors are a little punchier on the UK edition, but this one looks a bit more natural. Sonically, the DTS-MA stereo track on the Twilight Time blows the UK's Dolby Digital audio out of the water. There are a few moments here and there where one can hear its limitations, but for the most part it is a very involving track, and the music sound pretty good.

The M&E track is quite nice to have — it's very nice in particular to have the last portion of the main title isolated, which has Richard Burton's line readings over it on the album.

I haven't yet listened to the commentary track, but I will check it out soon enough. That said, I don't regret picking up the UK edition as I do like the commentary and special features on that disc very much.

 
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