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 Posted:   Mar 17, 2014 - 11:08 PM   
 By:   Dave Frolik   (Member)

Finally got my copy and have to say I'm definitely impressed. 90% of my focus is on The Arsenal of Freedom as this has been my favorite score since I first heard it in the early 90s. It's fantastic to finally have a completely dramatic, action oriented score by Dennis McCarthy which was composed before Berman's influence got too strong. Some cues here have a lot in common with his work on MacGyver, very dynamic and innovative. I find Dennis McCarthy was one of the first who composed music for TV series which didn't sound cheesy, cheap and outdated, in fact I find it still sounds modern today and is worlds above most music composed for TV today. The sound quality of this cd is very good, very clean with no background noise. Jeff Bond's notes are very interesting also, I'm amazed how many details Dennis remembers about each score.
Thanks again GNP, you've made a dream come true.

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2014 - 6:59 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

...and probably won't be noticed by most listeners. You might have to really have all the original tracks memorized for 25 years to spot them!

You do know you're talking about score geeks as well as Trekkies. Of course the tracks were memorized for the last 25 years. razz

I spotted the changes right off.

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2014 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

(Perhaps collections with some of the scores from the two-parters, particularly since a few of those have been reedited as "features" for blu-ray.)

Just to clarify, those were only done as standalone releases to coincide with the theatrical event presentations. The individual episode parts still exist in their proper places within the Blu-Ray season sets. smile

I'm up for any and all Star Trek music releases.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2014 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

It's interesting to see in the credits in the booklet that Arthur Morton did orchestrations for Farpoint!

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2014 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

...and probably won't be noticed by most listeners. You might have to really have all the original tracks memorized for 25 years to spot them!

You do know you're talking about score geeks as well as Trekkies. Of course the tracks were memorized for the last 25 years. razz

I spotted the changes right off.


Scott, are you able to list the changes at all? Are there many? No offense intended to Ford and the other producers of this, and the sound is absolutely stellar over the previous version, but I'm not ever a fan of re-recording parts of something. Just not my thing is all. I think taking all the original elements, remastering them, fixing edit issues, is great, but I'm not a fan of adding synth lines, etc. That said, I AM a fan of this CD! Go figure. smile

In any case, I'd love to at least do an A/B listen if you've taken the time, Scott, to enumerate the changes.

Congrats to Neil Norman, Mark Banning, Ford, Jeff Bond, et al.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2014 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Nothing was rerecorded; as Ford said, Dennis went in and manipulated some synth elements and I think this is really more adjusting the mix and smoothing things out editorially than anything else. To compare this in any way with a "rerecording" is really extremely misleading--this is the original performance and recording. Irrespective of what how anyone feels about the process, it would simply be far too expensive to hire musicians to rerecord music for this kind of album release.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2014 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

Nothing was rerecorded; as Ford said, Dennis went in and manipulated some synth elements and I think this is really more adjusting the mix and smoothing things out editorially than anything else. To compare this in any way with a "rerecording" is really extremely misleading--this is the original performance and recording. Irrespective of what how anyone feels about the process, it would simply be far too expensive to hire musicians to rerecord music for this kind of album release.

Aaaah, okay, so I did misunderstand. I think Ford made reference to "adding" so I assumed that meant redoing synth lines, etc. Glad to know the elements were all still there - again, just my own choice. A fine, fine re-release, no question. Leads one to pretty much never need to listen to the original release again, though at the time I was just elated it got released in the first place. Ah, the old blister pack releases with artwork stuck at the top and jewel case with CD at the bottom. I remember seeing that in a local record store and not believing my eyes. Thanks, Jeff!

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2014 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

It sounds very different, as others here have noted, from the original release from GNP.

But personally, I'm really enjoying it.

It sounds to me that some synth lines were redone, there's a square-wave type synth sound on the original release, playing the Courage fanfare for a moment, but it sounds more like synth trumpets on this new release.

Personally, I'm sticking to the new one for listening, and really like what was done.

Arsenal of Freedom is interesting to hear, especially when one action cue is pretty much a repeat of some action material from Farpoint.

Thanks to all involved with this one. smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2014 - 8:02 PM   
 By:   jediking12   (Member)

So last year GNP released Best of Both Worlds and now Encounter at Farpoint. Do you think the next one would Yesterday's Enterprise/Unification/Hollow Pursuits? I Hope they would release music from the episode "Genesis"

 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2014 - 1:02 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

So last year GNP released Best of Both Worlds and now Encounter at Farpoint. Do you think the next one would Yesterday's Enterprise/Unification/Hollow Pursuits? I Hope they would release music from the episode "Genesis"

Like the other early Trek GNP Trek releases "Yesterday's Enterprise" also needs a remastering but I would love to see an expansion of the Voyager pilot score first.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2014 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I've been ripping my collection to iTunes and cannot get this CD to rip at all. The computer can play the tracks, but won't save them. It keeps saying it "can't start the job". Since it's never been mentioned I doubt anyone else had this happen, but am I really alone in this?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2014 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

I've been ripping my collection to iTunes and cannot get this CD to rip at all. The computer can play the tracks, but won't save them. It keeps saying it "can't start the job". Since it's never been mentioned I doubt anyone else had this happen, but am I really alone in this?

I suspect it has too do more then your computer then anything else.

Perhaps it's time to update ITUNES, It ripped into my computer just fine.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2014 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

That's what I figured was the case. Everything else I've put in has ripped so I just thought I'd throw it out there. I just ordered a DVD drive for my MacBook Air so I'm thinking that'll work better.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 12, 2014 - 10:58 PM   
 By:   sherrill50   (Member)

That's what I figured was the case. Everything else I've put in has ripped so I just thought I'd throw it out there. I just ordered a DVD drive for my MacBook Air so I'm thinking that'll work better.

I ran into this too, tho with other discs. Turned out to be that my optical disc drive was dying, and it failed a couple of weeks later. I installed a new replacement, and have been fine ever since.

Now back to our normal programming. Er... topic.

 
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