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 Posted:   Mar 2, 2014 - 10:40 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I thought the choice of music this year, John Barry's "Somewhere in Time," was perfect. Much better than having a vocalist singing,

One composer made the list this year - Riz Ortolani

There was a smattering of applause when the first name went up (James Gandolfini), then no further applause. Either the audience was terribly respectful this year, or the show's producers made the decision to dial out any sound of the audience reaction. If so, it was a good decision, one they should have made years ago.

And the images were shown full-screen on the TV this year, not from some oblique camera angle looking at an on-stage screen (and not having to compete with shots of some singer on stage).

All in all, one of the best produced "In Memorium" segments I can recall, with one exception. At the end of it, Bette Midler comes out and sings "Wind Beneath My Wings." Acceptable--but unnecessary.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 12:22 AM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)



I'm sure there are many of us around here who agree with you Bob as do I.
Seems like the formatting this year allowed them to get in more names than previous shows.

Any thoughts on those left out that you feel should have been included?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 1:11 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Any thoughts on those left out that you feel should have been included?


I don't recall Jonathan Winters being mentioned. He didn't have a big body of film work. But they included Sid Caesar, who also didn't have a lot of films, mentioning Caesar's role in IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD. Winters was in that film too.

Ed Lauter is another I would have included.

John Cacavas is another composer that could have been mentioned, but probably it was felt he was more involved with television. And Armando Trovajoli would have been one Italian composer too many.

But I think the biggest oversight was director Bryan Forbes.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 1:56 AM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

Any thoughts on those left out that you feel should have been included?


I don't recall Jonathan Winters being mentioned. He didn't have a big body of film work. But they included Sid Caesar, who also didn't have a lot of films, mentioning Caesar's role in IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD. Winters was in that film too.

Ed Lauter is another I would have included.

John Cacavas is another composer that could have been mentioned, but probably it was felt he was more involved with television. And Armando Trovajoli would have been one Italian composer too many.

But I think the biggest oversight was director Bryan Forbes.


There were a significant number of people who were not that well known to the average moviegoer --- how are they selected - and yet many actors that passed that would be recognized - like Jonathan Winters - were not mentioned . Christopher Jones, Rosanna Podesta, Audrey Totter, Alicia Rhett, Noel Harrison, Elliot Reid, & Tony Musante are few others not mentioned .

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 1:59 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

There were a significant number of people who were not that well known to the average moviegoer --- how are they selected - and yet many actors that passed that would be recognized - like Jonathan Winters - were not mentioned . Christopher Jones, Rosanna Podesta, Audrey Totter, Alicia Rhett, Noel Harrison, Elliot Reid, & Tony Musante are few others not mentioned .


There were a number of names mentioned that few would know--set designers, executives, and the like. But I suppose you have to include more than actors, actresses, and directors. The Academy does have 17 branches.

I was glad to see some non-actor names that the public might recognize, such as Roger Ebert and Ray Dolby.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 3:54 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

But I think the biggest oversight was director Bryan Forbes.

The Academy is known for missing fairly obvious people in their Memorium reel. I still can't believe they didnt list Patrick McGoohan a couple years back.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 5:32 AM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)

Bryan Forbes was a significant oversight. Winters' passing was mentioned (and highlighted) in the previous year's segment (Robin Williams made a personal tribute). Totter is another significant omission since she had major roles in many films.

Because of the fact that some of the inclusions are deaths that occur in the same year's telecast, it can get quite confusing as to whom they are leaving out unless one has a list of the previous year's honorees. For instance, will they include Ralph Waite and/or Alain Resnais in next year's show?

My own research last year into the industry's losses turned up over 100 names. I believe the show covered 47 or so which means that over half are left out. A personal gripe for me is when they leave out actors (like Patrick Magoohan or Russell Johnson) known primarily for their T.V. roles but who really stood out in more than a few movies. Now that BAFTA, Emmys, and Screen Actors Guild shows have In Memoriam segments they can often include some left out of the others. Curiously The Golden Globes has never produced one which seems a shame since there is a wealth of foreign talent in all aspects of the industry never even considered for any of the above shows.

The most inexplicable omission for me was composer Fred Karlin on the A.A. segment after he died. Not only was he nominated...HE WON!

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

It was nice that they gave a nod to Sarah Jones.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

As I watched the "In Memorium" segment, I thought it was appropriate to use "Somewhere In Time," because Richard Matheson, who wrote the book upon which that movie was based, was among those who had died in the past year. And I believe they've used it in years past, possibly even last year, before Streisand came out to sing "The Way We Were" in tribute to the passing of its composer, Marvin Hamlisch. Wait -- I think that last year it was Barry's "Out of Africa," which is very similar.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

The Oscars broadcast screws up a lot of presentations and award selections, it is now routine to expect them to leave out important tributes, misspell names. Beyond that, you can expect them to not nominate or not award movies that are pretty obviously correct choices, and often go for the fad of the month, or message movie of the month/year. I have learned to avoid the broadcast at all costs, it is a bloated waste of time.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

If they left out the five or whatever song nominees that might alleviate some of the time constraints. After all, they don't play all the nominated scores or the fifteen nominated films, do they?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 7:04 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

I'm sorry they didn't mention Cory Monteith from Glee.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

When were the Oscars? Did them have them already?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

When were the Oscars? Did them have them already?

Yeah, that was last night Solium, but you really did not miss much.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

When were the Oscars? Did them have them already?

Yeah, that was last night Solium, but you really did not miss much.


Thanks Ado. I was being sarcastic. Sorry. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

When were the Oscars? Did them have them already?

Yeah, that was last night Solium, but you really did not miss much.


Thanks Ado. I was being sarcastic. Sorry. smile


Yeah, I thought so, but I played along.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

They missed Alain Resnais, but that's obviously because it was too close to the ceremony. I'm sure he'll be in next year's in memoriam section.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

[Jonathan] Winters' passing was mentioned (and highlighted) in the previous year's segment (Robin Williams made a personal tribute).


That seems unlikely, since Winters died on April 11, 2013, well after last year's Oscar ceremony. Perhaps Williams' tribute came on another awards show. The television Emmys in September perhaps?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 9:50 PM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)

[Jonathan] Winters' passing was mentioned (and highlighted) in the previous year's segment (Robin Williams made a personal tribute).


That seems unlikely, since Winters died on April 11, 2013, well after last year's Oscar ceremony. Perhaps Williams' tribute came on another awards show. The television Emmys in September perhaps?



You're absolutely right Bob. I stand corrected. It was the EMMY awards that Williams hosted that tribute. So the Academy left him out as well. That's sad.

 
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