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 Posted:   Mar 9, 2014 - 8:53 PM   
 By:   magoptic   (Member)

Has this S/track ever been released in Stereo?
And does there seem any possibilty of it being re-released on CD anyway??
Lovely score, great main title. So typical of Victor Young.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2014 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Thumbs up to this very nice score from the great VICTOR YOUNG.one of his last ones.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2014 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   panphoto   (Member)

Disques Cinemusique issued a stereo CD together with Run of the Arrow a couple of years back, DCM136. The sound is terrific.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2014 - 10:30 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

The Disques Cinemusique CD is not stereo; it's just the old mono Decca LP with a bunch of reverb dumped on it. No, this score has not been released in stereo on LP or CD; however, the laserdisc and the DVD of the movie are stereo, and also feature a separate stereo music and effects audio track. (I have the older Lumivision DVD. I don't know if the music and effects track is on the current VCI version. It's not mentioned in the description or in any of the reviews.) The music is quite breathtaking in stereo.

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2014 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Disques Cinemusique issued a stereo CD together with Run of the Arrow a couple of years back, DCM136. The sound is terrific.




I think the sound of the Disques Cinemusique Brave One is atrocious. One of the worst botches of great music I've heard. Swamped in a horrible synthetic stereo reverb which is applied particularly badly. The effects through headphones wander all over the place and vary noticeably according to the levels of the music.
Run of the Arrow isn't as bad but is still poor compared with the results that superior labels regularly provide us with today.
Luckily, that label hasn't issued similar CDs from old LPs for a while. Maybe they've been told in no uncertain terms to keep their hands off other labels' products?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2014 - 5:54 PM   
 By:   Mr.Movies   (Member)

The Brave One was issued on cd in Japan in Stereo,by Victor Musical Industries in 1990,I bought a copy back then. but you may find a copy on ebay,albeit at a very high price.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2014 - 9:22 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


Yes! We need a proper CD to The Brave One.

I saw the film when it came out, nearly every kid in the theatre was fighting back the tears at the end of the film.

A very colorful and beautiful Victor Young score!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2014 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

DP

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2014 - 9:30 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

The Brave One was issued on cd in Japan in Stereo,by Victor Musical Industries in 1990,I bought a copy back then. but you may find a copy on ebay,albeit at a very high price.



Yes, but that has thin and tinny sound. Sounds more natural than the Disques Cinemusique though.
We're yet to have a worthy CD of this score.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2014 - 9:35 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

I too would love to see a decent new CD release of this score. I do have the Japanese CD from years ago, but even that has a flaw, a brief but very noticeable tape dropout in the big finale (which was also the Japanese LP reissue). Hopefully that could be fixed. And perhaps the Main Title could also be included in stereo from the film itself.

Another thing I wanted to mention is that I have always loved the beautiful cue "Christmas Morning" heard on the LP/CD, but it is not in the film. I'm presuming it was written for a scene that was later cut. It's one of my favorite wintertime pieces of music.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2014 - 5:17 PM   
 By:   magoptic   (Member)

I too would love to see a decent new CD release of this score. I do have the Japanese CD from years ago, but even that has a flaw, a brief but very noticeable tape dropout in the big finale (which was also the Japanese LP reissue). Hopefully that could be fixed. And perhaps the Main Title could also be included in stereo from the film itself.

Another thing I wanted to mention is that I have always loved the beautiful cue "Christmas Morning" heard on the LP/CD, but it is not in the film. I'm presuming it was written for a scene that was later cut. It's one of my favorite wintertime pieces of music.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2014 - 5:17 PM   
 By:   magoptic   (Member)

I too would love to see a decent new CD release of this score. I do have the Japanese CD from years ago, but even that has a flaw, a brief but very noticeable tape dropout in the big finale (which was also the Japanese LP reissue). Hopefully that could be fixed. And perhaps the Main Title could also be included in stereo from the film itself.

Another thing I wanted to mention is that I have always loved the beautiful cue "Christmas Morning" heard on the LP/CD, but it is not in the film. I'm presuming it was written for a scene that was later cut. It's one of my favorite wintertime pieces of music.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2014 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   magoptic   (Member)

I too would love to see a decent new CD release of this score. I do have the Japanese CD from years ago, but even that has a flaw, a brief but very noticeable tape dropout in the big finale (which was also the Japanese LP reissue). Hopefully that could be fixed. And perhaps the Main Title could also be included in stereo from the film itself.

Another thing I wanted to mention is that I have always loved the beautiful cue "Christmas Morning" heard on the LP/CD, but it is not in the film. I'm presuming it was written for a scene that was later cut. It's one of my favorite wintertime pieces of music.


If you loved Christmas by Victor Young, try his 'White' theme from the CD Tone Poems of Color conducted by Frank Sinatra. VERY similar & just as lovely.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2014 - 8:02 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I too would love to see a decent new CD release of this score. I do have the Japanese CD from years ago, but even that has a flaw, a brief but very noticeable tape dropout in the big finale (which was also the Japanese LP reissue). Hopefully that could be fixed. And perhaps the Main Title could also be included in stereo from the film itself.

Another thing I wanted to mention is that I have always loved the beautiful cue "Christmas Morning" heard on the LP/CD, but it is not in the film. I'm presuming it was written for a scene that was later cut. It's one of my favorite wintertime pieces of music.


If you loved Christmas by Victor Young, try his 'White' theme from the CD Tone Poems of Color conducted by Frank Sinatra. VERY similar & just as lovely.




Back in 1971 I found this fine LP in an old record store in Rhode Island. Do you think Frank Sinatra really conducted it?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2014 - 8:40 PM   
 By:   magoptic   (Member)

I too would love to see a decent new CD release of this score. I do have the Japanese CD from years ago, but even that has a flaw, a brief but very noticeable tape dropout in the big finale (which was also the Japanese LP reissue). Hopefully that could be fixed. And perhaps the Main Title could also be included in stereo from the film itself.

Another thing I wanted to mention is that I have always loved the beautiful cue "Christmas Morning" heard on the LP/CD, but it is not in the film. I'm presuming it was written for a scene that was later cut. It's one of my favorite wintertime pieces of music.


If you loved Christmas by Victor Young, try his 'White' theme from the CD Tone Poems of Color conducted by Frank Sinatra. VERY similar & just as lovely.




Back in 1971 I found this fine LP in an old record store in Rhode Island. Do you think Frank Sinatra really conducted it?


I believe so. I too started with the LP. Seem to recall reading the background to it years ago. Couldn't believe when I found it re-released on a CD - alas only mono. Quite a collection of our favourite composers featured. The Previn is a rework of his stunning opener for 'Bad Day At Black Rock'.
Love it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 6:15 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

Magoptic: I have the TONE POEMS CD. I also have a Disneyland LP titled "Winter," conducted by Tutti Camarata (WDL-3026), on which that same "White" piece makes another appearance, but under the name of "The Silver Tree."

PFK: I too always wondered about Sinatra conducting. Although, there is also a Dean Martin album called "Sleep Warm," on which Sinatra also supposedly conducts. Who knows?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

I too have the Japanese CD of Brave - but it is NOT stereo. Just a dupe of the Decca mono master.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Magoptic: I have the TONE POEMS CD. I also have a Disneyland LP titled "Winter," conducted by Tutti Camarata (WDL-3026), on which that same "White" piece makes another appearance, but under the name of "The Silver Tree."

PFK: I too always wondered about Sinatra conducting. Although, there is also a Dean Martin album called "Sleep Warm," on which Sinatra also supposedly conducts. Who knows?




Jim, in 1971 I found this LP in a small, very old record store in Rhode Island. The owner was in his 60s and in the music business over 40 years! When I went to pay him for the LP, he took one look at it and said:
" Frank Sinatra no more conducted this than I did!" ...... smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   magoptic   (Member)

Magoptic: I have the TONE POEMS CD. I also have a Disneyland LP titled "Winter," conducted by Tutti Camarata (WDL-3026), on which that same "White" piece makes another appearance, but under the name of "The Silver Tree."

PFK: I too always wondered about Sinatra conducting. Although, there is also a Dean Martin album called "Sleep Warm," on which Sinatra also supposedly conducts. Who knows?




Jim, in 1971 I found this LP in a small, very old record store in Rhode Island. The owner was in his 60s and in the music business over 40 years! When I went to pay him for the LP, he took one look at it and said:
" Frank Sinatra no more conducted this than I did!" ...... smile



While we’re talking about Victor Young, I’ve always been fascinated by an old UK ‘Brunswick’ 45 I’ve got - (presumably American ‘Decca’) of the charming traditional tune ‘Cindy’ supposedly ‘Theme from The Tall Men’, & on the reverse side ‘The Left Hand of God’ theme, both from VY movies but according to the label conducted by Alfred Newman.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2014 - 12:46 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....While we’re talking about Victor Young, I’ve always been fascinated by an old UK ‘Brunswick’ 45 I’ve got - (presumably American ‘Decca’) of the charming traditional tune ‘Cindy’ supposedly ‘Theme from The Tall Men’, & on the reverse side ‘The Left Hand of God’ theme, both from VY movies but according to the label conducted by Alfred Newman.....


Are you sure about this magoptic?

According to the British Brunswick Discography I'm looking at, the Brunswick 45 disc---#05498---of "Cindy" from THE TALL MEN and "Theme" from THE LEFT HAND OF GOD---is performed by Victor Young and His Singing Strings.

Around this time, a lot of these single 45's of Victor Young (and His Singing Strings) were pulled from 33-12" LPs, usually 12 cue (6 to a side), compilation recordings Young had done for Decca/Brunswick in this period.

I always enjoyed these and have quite a few of them. While they're not soundtracks, they're honestly arranged and performed by Young in a quality manner, and often deliver themes and main titles we never got in any other recordings, particularly those he did for Republic films.

 
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