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 Posted:   Jul 25, 2014 - 12:14 PM   
 By:   ZheParadox   (Member)

I'm sure it's nowhere near as good as The Amazing Spiderman 2 will be, but this is really outstanding and everyone should buy it.

i'm a little bit confused...
you reviewed this score one day before you wrote this comment AND you gave this score 5 stars and still thought that tASM 2 would be better than this?!

i bought this score based on your review and am eager to buy the cd, too

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2014 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

This is fantastic score I'd love to own on physical CD.

The film was bad, but the score is just great.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2014 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

Any comment 'moviescore' on the continuing hold-up with the cd?

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2014 - 10:55 PM   
 By:   cwtlead   (Member)

I'm hoping to buy this on cd too.

I was really disappointed Arnau Bataller's "Brotherhood" did not receive a CD.

MSM, there is still time to correct both!!!!
:-)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2014 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   ChristianKühn   (Member)

It's up (again?) at SAE, with a planned release date of late August: http://www1.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/27439/GRAND-PIANO/

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2014 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Jon Broxton   (Member)

I'm hoping to buy this on cd too. I was really disappointed Arnau Bataller's "Brotherhood" did not receive a CD. MSM, there is still time to correct both!!!!

You say this as though not releasing it on CD was an error somehow.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2014 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I'm hoping to buy this on cd too. I was really disappointed Arnau Bataller's "Brotherhood" did not receive a CD. MSM, there is still time to correct both!!!!

You say this as though not releasing it on CD was an error somehow.


It is if the only digital version is mp3. I'd jump on digital if MSM would put the digital scores out in CD quality.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2014 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Jon Broxton   (Member)

High quality MP3 audio and CD-audio are absolutely identical. The only difference is that, when compressing the music into MP3 format, it removes the part of the audio range that is inaudible to the human ear to make the file smaller.

Unless you're a dog, or Superman, the difference is literally physically impossible to detect. I cannot understand why people have an aversion to this, except for the fact that some people like little shiny discs in their hands.

To me, whenever I see someone "refusing to buy a score because it's a digital download only", it always makes me think of someone complaining that a meal tastes different because it's served on a paper plate rather than bone china.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2014 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

High quality MP3 audio and CD-audio are absolutely identical. The only difference is that, when compressing the music into MP3 format, it removes the part of the audio range that is inaudible to the human ear to make the file smaller.

That may be the case, but 256 iTunes standard is not high enough to achieve that -- there is audible loss at that bitrate. For me the blind test for not being able to tell the difference on my equipment is usually somewhere around 320; for others it is likely higher than that.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2014 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   Jon Broxton   (Member)

That may be the case, but 256 iTunes standard is not high enough to achieve that -- there is audible loss at that bitrate. For me the blind test for not being able to tell the difference on my equipment is usually somewhere around 320; for others it is likely higher than that.

How audible? I mean, seriously, are people's ears so enormously sensitive that the tiniest, most miniscule imperfections in the bitrate make it impossible for them to enjoy the music as a result of that? If they are, then I would seriously recommend they contact Guinness and get themselves tested, as they may have the most perfectly-fine-tuned ears in the history of the world.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2014 - 3:51 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Well, to play devil's advocate a little bit, we are being sold a LOT of remastering hoopla from the labels these days, so maybe it's natural for fans to grow more critical of sound quality. For me, the eye opener was Silvestri 's PREDATOR - I thought the Varese sounded fine, but guess my ears were wrong, as (how many now?) reissues have proven....
I'm just saying, is it any wonder, with round 4 or 5 of The Blue Max & Night Crossing on cd, people are listening closer than ever?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2014 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   ChristianKühn   (Member)

How audible? I mean, seriously, are people's ears so enormously sensitive that the tiniest, most miniscule imperfections in the bitrate make it impossible for them to enjoy the music as a result of that? If they are, then I would seriously recommend they contact Guinness and get themselves tested, as they may have the most perfectly-fine-tuned ears in the history of the world.

It wasn't a problem for me for a long time, but some time in late 2008, I suddenly "got" the difference between 192 and 320 kbit/s. And with me, once I know it's there, I cannot "unhear" it. It IS a small difference, agreed, but for me (and other people, evidently), it's there.

You have pointed out several times that this is no problem for you, Jon, so I guess you can count yourself lucky. big grin On the other hand, you do have a point inasfar as some of us might over-interpret this issue. To a degree, I'd argue it's something more psychological...once I know that something is in less than 320 kbit/s, it's perfectly possible that I'll be biased before I've heard a single note. Also, of course, listening to mp3s on an iPod over headphones plays a role; there, the difference between hi-res files and low-res ones, in all likelihood, is negligible.

But on a good system, which I'm looking forward to return to soon, nothing beats a CD. Which is why I'll continue hunt those things down or, if none are forthcoming, get FLAC and/or WAVs files.

CK

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2014 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Is the difference going to be detectable in every case? Probably not. I have run tests based on 320kbps mp3s that I created converting from my own CD source and found no discernible difference. I still listen to lossless audio ripped from CD whenever I have it when I am at home and in front of my two klipsch speakers. I haven't done tests with most commercially released albums on iTunes though.

When I buy a CD I will rip the CD quality audio to the PC for home listening and simultaneously convert the same audio to mp3 for portable listening. The issue is not about whether I can detect the difference. It is about whether I could be getting a higher quality version on a CD or through a lossless download.

The point is the infrastructure exists already that allows labels to sell lossless downloads. It shouldn't be that much harder to put a release out in lossless than it is to put it out in standard iTunes MP3. The music is all there and presumably the digital rights as well.

Will some still complain that it is a download and not a CD? Sure. And if they are willing to pay the premium plus shipping to get a CD then let them. But at least putting out lossless downloads makes there one less reason to insist on releasing CDs.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2014 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   ChristianKühn   (Member)

Aye to everything you said, Mr S! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2014 - 12:51 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

High quality MP3 audio and CD-audio are absolutely identical. The only difference is that, when compressing the music into MP3 format, it removes the part of the audio range that is inaudible to the human ear to make the file smaller.

No that is not "the only difference". There's also the fact that a lossless format has far more flexibility of use. And besides, why should people settle for WORSE quality than technology from 1982?

 
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