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 Posted:   Jul 12, 2014 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)


Frankly, it's not that much different and anyone who has the old edition should be fine.


Being something of an obsessive with both film and score I had to have this encore version in order to hear the alternate Main Title and I have to disagree with Bruce Kimmel's comment above when he says it’s not much different to the version as in the film. I’ve heard plenty of alternative cues where I’ve had a hard time spotting any change at all – but I'm pleased to say that's not so in this case.

Although the thematic material is the same, the arrangements and orchestration are very different, giving a more subdued, romantic sounding Main Title. Assuming this was Friedhofer’s first version, it’s not surprising that he decided (or more probably asked, in view of all the changes made to film and score) to make it sound harsher to suit the revenge theme. The cue also extends from the title sequence into the opening scene of the bank hold-up, where Brando is nonchalantly sitting on the counter eating a banana, and ends on an ominous downward chord. That music is in the film but isn’t included on disc 2 as part of the OST. So it's good to have that music - albeit brief - as well. The complete cue is therefore 25 seconds longer than the Main Title as heard on track 1 of both disc 1 and disc 2.


 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2014 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)


Frankly, it's not that much different and anyone who has the old edition should be fine.


Being something of an obsessive with both film and score I had to have this encore version in order to hear the alternate Main Title and I have to disagree with Bruce Kimmel's comment above when he says it’s not much different to the version as in the film. I’ve heard plenty of alternative cues where I’ve had a hard time spotting any change at all – but I'm pleased to say that's not so in this case.

Although the thematic material is the same, the arrangements and orchestration are very different, giving a more subdued, romantic sounding Main Title. Assuming this was Friedhofer’s first version, it’s not surprising that he decided (or more probably asked, in view of all the changes made to film and score) to make it sound harsher to suit the revenge theme. The cue also extends from the title sequence into the opening scene of the bank hold-up, where Brando is nonchalantly sitting on the counter eating a banana, and ends on an ominous downward chord. That music is in the film but isn’t included on disc 2 as part of the OST. So it's good to have that music - albeit brief - as well. The complete cue is therefore 25 seconds longer than the Main Title as heard on track 1 of both disc 1 and disc 2.



I came to a similar conclusion. The first issue was excellent, however the "encore" is much better. Although most listeners can be pleased with the first issue, I am much happier with the second. So I sold off my first copy and basically swapped it for the second. The correct replacement cue, as noted above, is actually a bit longer and includes a small amount of music not included on the 2nd disc.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2014 - 9:49 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Well, then I guess everyone should buy it! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2015 - 1:59 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I never knew that Caterina Valente had recorded a song to the main theme from ONE-EYED JACKS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_ydD_x-cNo

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2015 - 3:40 AM   
 By:   roadshowfan   (Member)

I never knew that Caterina Valente had recorded a song to the main theme from ONE-EYED JACKS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_ydD_x-cNo


What a great find! I've always loved this theme. This version is also available on CD I've just discovered:

http://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=CDLK4564

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 3, 2015 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   finder4545   (Member)

I never knew that Caterina Valente had recorded a song to the main theme from ONE-EYED JACKS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_ydD_x-cNo



In the 50's and 60's Italian music was strongly influenced by oversea's cinema, and Caterina Valente’s version of ONE EYED JACKS (It.title "I Due Volti della Vendetta", or "Two Faces of Vengeance") was very popular and regularly transmitted by radio stations every day. Also look at these by baritone singers Arturo Testa (Rio Bravo and Magnificent Seven)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T-zEb_VweGo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rEe-bAwGndU

and Luciano Virgili (Green Fire)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QYUYzb4QFH0

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2015 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   Melvin Stephens   (Member)

and Luciano Virgili (Green Fire)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QYUYzb4QFH0

Sounds like Ricky Recardo.....

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2015 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Funny thing about this thread being bumped - people are e-mailing me saying their opting out of this release, so to anyone who's confused - this is an OLD thread and not a new release announcement smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2015 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

I never knew that Caterina Valente had recorded a song to the main theme from ONE-EYED JACKS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_ydD_x-cNo


What a great find! I've always loved this theme. This version is also available on CD I've just discovered:

http://www.duttonvocalion.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=CDLK4564


That cd is superb

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2017 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   w-dervish   (Member)

How can one tell which one is which? I placed an order at MovieMusic assuming that I was ordering the Encore Edition. Looking at the page, however, it does not say "Encore Edition". Given that the original release sold out I would think I'd almost certainly be getting the Encore. Just to be sure though, I sent an email to Peter Kelly. I assumed he'd confirm it was the Encore by looking at the packaging where it would say "Encore Edition". Apparently it doesn't, because he got back to me and asked me the same question I'm asking here... how do you tell which one you've got? Although maybe he's looking at a copy of the old edition and therefore not seeing "Encore Edition" printed on the packaging?

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2017 - 4:56 PM   
 By:   w-dervish   (Member)

How can one tell which one is which? I placed an order at MovieMusic assuming that I was ordering the Encore Edition. Looking at the page, however, it does not say "Encore Edition". Given that the original release sold out I would think I'd almost certainly be getting the Encore. Just to be sure though, I sent an email to Peter Kelly. I assumed he'd confirm it was the Encore by looking at the packaging where it would say "Encore Edition". Apparently it doesn't, because he got back to me and asked me the same question I'm asking here... how do you tell which one you've got?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2017 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

How can one tell which one is which? I placed an order at MovieMusic assuming that I was ordering the Encore Edition. Looking at the page, however, it does not say "Encore Edition". Given that the original release sold out I would think I'd almost certainly be getting the Encore. Just to be sure though, I sent an email to Peter Kelly. I assumed he'd confirm it was the Encore by looking at the packaging where it would say "Encore Edition". Apparently it doesn't, because he got back to me and asked me the same question I'm asking here... how do you tell which one you've got?

It actually states encore edition limited to 1000 copies on the lower right corner of the back cover

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2017 - 2:56 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

How can one tell which one is which? I placed an order at MovieMusic assuming that I was ordering the Encore Edition. Looking at the page, however, it does not say "Encore Edition". Given that the original release sold out I would think I'd almost certainly be getting the Encore. Just to be sure though, I sent an email to Peter Kelly. I assumed he'd confirm it was the Encore by looking at the packaging where it would say "Encore Edition". Apparently it doesn't, because he got back to me and asked me the same question I'm asking here... how do you tell which one you've got?

You could, of course, just order it from Kritzerland and be sure you're getting the Encore edition.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2017 - 5:16 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

I bought the first release, a huge favourite, I still listen to it a lot. This, Goldsmiths Rio Conchos & L. Newman's The Last Wagon are my three favourite non-spaghetti western CD's. If you like Friedhofers music, then this is a must-have. Maybe one day a great looking Blu-ray?

Still holding out a very slim hope for another Freidhofer western, White Feather.


Ah, in my past life as CinemaScope, & we got a great looking Blu-ray (I bought the UK Arrow release), sometimes great things do happen. I thought the Encore edition had sold out yonks ago, esp. with the release of the Criterion Blu-ray. I've taken Doug Raynes advice & just now have ordered the encore before it goes forever. One of the all time great soundtracks smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2017 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   w-dervish   (Member)

You could, of course, just order it from Kritzerland and be sure you're getting the Encore edition.

I could have, but I did not. I ordered from MovieMusic (along with 2 other titles) and got shipping for $1. Anyway, joec's response answered the question. Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2017 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

I bought the first release, a huge favourite, I still listen to it a lot. This, Goldsmiths Rio Conchos & L. Newman's The Last Wagon are my three favourite non-spaghetti western CD's. If you like Friedhofers music, then this is a must-have. Maybe one day a great looking Blu-ray?

Still holding out a very slim hope for another Freidhofer western, White Feather.


Ah, in my past life as CinemaScope, & we got a great looking Blu-ray (I bought the UK Arrow release), sometimes great things do happen. I thought the Encore edition had sold out yonks ago, esp. with the release of the Criterion Blu-ray. I've taken Doug Raynes advice & just now have ordered the encore before it goes forever. One of the all time great soundtracks smile


ONE EYED JACKS & THE COUNTERFEIT TRATIOR are my 2 favorite Kritzerland CD's ! Get them while they are still available.

 
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