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Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2      General Discussion: Goldenthal 2014:Three Releases, a Bday, new Symph.     1 2    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 6:53 PM     By:   Smaug   (Member) In addition to the new A Midsummer Night's Dream Goldenthal composed for the new theater opening in Brooklyn in November that'll be released on Zarathustra later this year, -he released a chamber music record (released today, April 1st) which is scrolling on the banner at iTunes Classical which features the world premiere of his String Quartet No.1 "The Stone Cutters" -on May 2 he celebrates his 60th birthday -on May 6 his Othello Symphony is being released: Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Elliot-Goldenthal-Othello-Symphony/dp/B00JEJMAJW/ -May 8 his new Symphony in G# Minor is premiering at the Pacific Symphony Orchestra in Orange County on a program of works by Williams, Shore, and Horner. The program will be broadcast on KUSC. I posted the other day for those near NYC, he's appearing for a Q & A with Julie Taymor on April 4. Othello Symphony:    Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 7:08 PM     By:   Khan   (Member) Othello preordered! Also, I'm enjoying the Stone Cutters release. That brass quintet is quite the revelation, too.    Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 7:56 PM     By:   MKRUltra   (Member) Was afraid this was going to be an April Fools post! Preordered the Othello Symphony -- if I remember correctly, it was only 30 minutes long so here's hoping there's something else on the disc, $20 with shipping from Amazon is a bit steep for that, especially when I have the ballet CD. Naturally Amazon didn't ship the Chamber Works disc til today, ugh, but can't wait to hear it whenever it does get here.    Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 8:10 PM     By:   Tango Urilla   (Member) I've never seen the ballet, but as a fan of both Goldenthal and Othello, I will definitely be picking this up.    Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 8:22 PM     By:   Smaug   (Member) I think Othello Symphony is 35 minutes long. I welcome a new version - if there's 100 Mahler Fifth Symphony's I'll take 2 Othello's!    Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 8:44 PM     By:   MKRUltra   (Member) I think Othello Symphony is 35 minutes long. Still a bit short for this high a price point without any other filler on the disc. But's Goldenthal, I'm just happy to have him back    Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 9:02 PM     By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member) The Stone Cutters disc is only about 38 minutes, too. He wrote most of these pieces, save for the String Quartet, when he was 20-24 years old. Crazy.    Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 9:21 PM     By:   Khan   (Member) The Stone Cutters disc is only about 38 minutes, too. He wrote most of these pieces, save for the String Quartet, when he was 20-24 years old. Crazy. The man has some skills.    Posted:   Apr 1, 2014 - 10:02 PM     By:   Tom Servo   (Member) Great set of releases for Goldenthal fans, very glad to see these since his absence from films has been notable.    Posted:   Apr 2, 2014 - 1:17 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) It's great that stuff is happening. As usual, some minor quibbles -- like desiring one of his many unreleased concert works over another version of OTHELLO and the inclusion of the previously available brass quintet on the STONE CUTTERS disc -- but as I said, just minor quibbles. Wish I'd been able to attend any of these functions -- or that they had been timed with my NY visit in June -- but there you go. I'll probably buy all of this; and hope I'll be able to catch the KUSC broadcast of the concert.    Posted:   Apr 2, 2014 - 11:26 AM     By:   Lokutus   (Member) and MORE fantastic Goldenthal news might be coming very soon!    Posted:   Apr 2, 2014 - 12:07 PM     By:   TheSeeker   (Member) Wait...EG is turning 60? In words: SIXTY? Damn that flying time...    Posted:   May 6, 2014 - 1:21 PM     By:   Khan   (Member) I received my copy of OTHELLO a day early (thanks Amazon), but have just now got around to listening to it. While I'm not done, I will say that the arrangements and trimming Goldenthal did to get this to symphony length are great. I don't feel it's a replacement for the Varese CD; rather, it can stand side by side it as an imagination. The redone Tarantella movement is incredible - the new combination of the pitch bending horns with the sultry sax utterly works.    Posted:   Dec 18, 2014 - 11:50 PM     By:   TerraEpon   (Member) I don't feel it's a replacement for the Varese CD; rather, it can stand side by side it as an imagination. The redone Tarantella movement is incredible - the new combination of the pitch bending horns with the sultry sax utterly works. Yes, there's a few classical pieces where there's a longer piece and a full reworked shorter one (as opposed to a 'standard' type suite) that isn't a replacement at all. Certainly most known to film score fans is Alexander Nevsky, but another example of ballet ---> symhpony is (again!) Prokofiev who rearranged The Prodigal Son into Symphony No. 4. I just got the symphony today and it's great but I cannot imagine anyone would owned the original Varese disc would call the new one an upgrade.    Posted:   Dec 19, 2014 - 2:05 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) I just got the Goldenthal today and it's great but I cannot imagine anyone would owned the original Varese disc would call the new one an upgrade. I agree. By the way, seems like we didn't get a release of MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM this year after all. Hmm....    Posted:   Dec 19, 2014 - 9:37 AM     By:   Jon Lewis   (Member) Prokofiev also revamped his opera The Fiery Angel into his Third Symphony (which happens to be my favorite of his seven). Hindemith did the same opera-->symphony conversion repeatedly as well. On a similar note, I actually prefer the Wooden Prince Suite to the full Ballet, which is a bit too baggy.    Posted:   Dec 20, 2014 - 8:34 AM     By:   smuli of finland   (Member) Othello Symphony was a disappointment for me. The performance wasn't stellar, and I just want as much Othello as I can have. That is to say, I truly wish I could have the complete ballet music in good quality. The Varèse release, at 71 minutes, is not enough for me. It is that good, and I want more. This new Symphony shorty had one nice thing though: the Tarantella cue was slightly different, percussions extended, but to my ears almost equally good. The other release was even a bigger disappointment for me. Perhaps I was expecting something as good as the best Goldenthal film scores, which are some life-saving material for me personally. Three Pieces For Piano, Sonata For Double Bass & Piano, Brass Quintet no. 2 and String Quartet no. 1 were just easy artsy compositions.    Posted:   Dec 20, 2014 - 9:17 AM     By:   MKRUltra   (Member) I thought the performance on the Othello Symphony was stellar, and very well recorded. It also plays nicely in truncated form, even if it's certainly no replacement for the ballet. If you want to hear a longer work get really botched in truncation to a shorter performance piece, check out Glass's reduction of his epic, powerful 80 minute score for Naqoyqatsi to a 39 minute concerto -- really jarring, how whittled down it is, and the replacement cellist is a really clunky player compared to Yo-Yo Ma who appeared on the original score.    Posted:   Dec 20, 2014 - 9:40 AM     By:   Thor   (Member) Othello Symphony was a disappointment for me. The performance wasn't stellar, and I just want as much Othello as I can have. That is to say, I truly wish I could have the complete ballet music in good quality. The Varèse release, at 71 minutes, is not enough for me. It is that good, and I want more. This new Symphony shorty had one nice thing though: the Tarantella cue was slightly different, percussions extended, but to my ears almost equally good. The other release was even a bigger disappointment for me. Perhaps I was expecting something as good as the best Goldenthal film scores, which are some life-saving material for me personally. Three Pieces For Piano, Sonata For Double Bass & Piano, Brass Quintet no. 2 and String Quartet no. 1 were just easy artsy compositions. I kinda agree with this, and I would add JABBERWOCKY to the list. Didn't really strike a chord with me at all, and I'm the biggest Goldenthal fan in the room. However, I LOVED his Symphony in G Sharp Minor. That one had some very specific film stylings. In fact, there are passages that seem almost directly lifted out of SPHERE. By the way, I haven't yet checked out the new OTHELLO recording, as I'm perfectly pleased with the old Varese recording.    Posted:   Dec 20, 2014 - 1:32 PM     By:   TerraEpon   (Member) Odd thing coming from you, given that the new one is about half as long.     General Discussion: Goldenthal 2014:Three Releases, a Bday, new Symph.    < 1 2  > >>  Go to page:  1 2   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2

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