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 Posted:   Apr 16, 2014 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I like his exotica stuff in general but I run hot and cold on his other stuff. Here is what I have:

Amazonas
Danses Africaines
Dawn in a Tropical Rainforest
Emperor Jones
Erosao
Forest of the Amazon (short and long versions)
Frenetic Dance
Green Mansions
Nonetto
Quatuor
Uirapuru

Any other key exotica titles I'm missing? I realize we can split hairs between genres. I'm not looking for an exhaustive list of his works or the important ones; rather stuff with exotica content.

Thanks in advance.

Your beloved Onya Birri


 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2014 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Hi, Onya.

Guess you already know that I'd be the first (and possibly only) person to reply. smile

If you have the Marco Polo CD of Villa-Lobos' Amazonas, Dawn in a tropical forest, & Erosao, then you probably should have his 1954 Genesis (perhaps you omitted that one by accident or design?).

Anyway, I think you should like half of the "Choros" series by Villa-Lobos (the higher numbered ones).

Going in reverse order, there're his Choros no.12, Choros no.11 for piano and orchestra, Choros no. 10 for orchestra & chorus, Choros no.9, Choros no. 8 for 2 pianos & orchestra, & Choros no. 6. Most of these were written between 1925 & 1929.

Also, I'd recommend his short "Fantasia for cello and orchestra" (the version I have is on the Delos label) and his earlier Rudepoema for either piano solo or orchestra.

(even though you may not care for his more formal works, such as his symphonies, you might like Symphonie no. 10 "AmerIndia". It's not unlike Forest of the Amazon in that it evokes Brazil via chorus and orchestra.)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2014 - 4:12 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Hi, Onya.

Guess you already know that I'd be the first (and possibly only) person to reply. smile



Ha! Of course. wink

I don't have that Marco Polo CD, but it is on my list. I have all the other works from that album on other CDs.

I think I may have that cello and orchestra piece you mention. I will find out.

Thanks for the recommendations on the other works. VL's catalog is so vast I don't know where to start.

By the way, do you have the CD with Nonetto and Quatuor? They are seldom recorded (earlier) works, and I don't know why.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2014 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

I don't know what counts as exotica but I have long loved Chôros 11 and would heartily recommend it.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)


By the way, do you have the CD with Nonetto and Quatuor? They are seldom recorded (earlier) works, and I don't know why.


No, I don't have the Nonetto.

However, there have been multiple volumes of VL's string quartets. Both Dorian Discovery and Marco Polo have issued surveys of his string quartets.

Was this early Quatuor a string quartet or some other chamber piece?

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

*bump*

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 3:51 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


By the way, do you have the CD with Nonetto and Quatuor? They are seldom recorded (earlier) works, and I don't know why.


No, I don't have the Nonetto.

However, there have been multiple volumes of VL's string quartets. Both Dorian Discovery and Marco Polo have issued surveys of his string quartets.

Was this early Quatuor a string quartet or some other chamber piece?


No, Quatuor is a chamber piece. Great instrumentation: voices (used instrumentally), sax, flute, vibes, percussion. You must pick up this CD. It is dirt cheap.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 6:12 PM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

I have almost all the Marco Polo Villa-Lobos recordings and several Amazonas. I thought I had exhausted the availability. I wasn't sure about the quartets or the choir, l may have to go there next. CPO seem to have many interesting records.

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2014 - 2:39 PM   
 By:   SoundScope   (Member)

Absolutely, positivily Choros No. 10 !!!

The images of ancient South American pagen riturals and celebrations, in my mind anyway, is unmistakable.

 
 Posted:   Apr 19, 2014 - 3:12 AM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

I don't know what counts as exotica but I have long loved Chôros 11 and would heartily recommend it.


Seconded!

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2014 - 6:54 PM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

There are, what looks like, two new recordings from Naxos of Heitor :

VILLA-LOBOS, H.: Symphonies Nos. 3, "War" and 4, "Victory" (Sao Paulo Symphony, Karabtchevsky)

http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.573151



VILLA-LOBOS, H.: Symphonies Nos. 6 and 7 (Sao Paulo Symphony, Karabtchevsky)

http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.573043



I have had a good experience with Floresta with the Sao Paulo Symphony Orchestra and Korondi, but not the above. Has anybody heard these symphony recordings and will comment?

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2014 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I'm so grateful for this topic: wasn't aware of the Nonetto/Quatour album at all, but I'm loving the samples and it's on the way.

Thanks so much for providing the lists of Villa Lobos exotica - there's much here to explore.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2014 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

For HVL's symphonies, I much prefer the recordings on CPO. The ones on Naxos are too....restrained I guess is the best word.

Also, not mentioned in this thread is his ballet Ruda (Dio d'Amore) which AFAIK is only available on a long OOP Marco Polo disc coupled with, I think Symphony #6 (though I bought a lossless DL from somewhere, probably eClassical.com, of just the ballet)

Also not mentioned is his 'other' actual film score (though for a documentary I believe) -- called Discovery of Brazil. This one had a VL recorded version, but I don't believe it's complete. All of it is on another MP CD.

 
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