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 Posted:   Apr 16, 2014 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

I read today that customs can now charge for items priced at least £15 (rather than £20) being shipped from the US to Europe. Has anyone had any experience of more customs charges lately for items shipped from SAE/LLL/Intrada etc?

I quite fancy three CDs in the LLL sale but I don't fancy a customs charge bang on top of it. I have never had a problem but it's been a while since I put in an order...

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2014 - 5:55 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I think the american suppliers are aware of this border 'piracy' problem. Your order is held hostage until you pay up - disgusting! It will hurt them just as much as it hurts us, eventually.

Might I suggest reducing your order to at most 2 x CDs at a time. The more lightweight, the better. I know this offsets the intended optimizing strategy of hauling more for less, however, the signs are that is fast becoming a false economy in spite of the best of intentions. I don't know what the expedient answer is, but, in view of what's happening that is all I can say.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2014 - 6:07 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

For several years all packages were getting through to me without UK customs charges. Last year, though, they appeared to tighten their procedures and now I always get hit if over the limit.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2014 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Since I live in South America, I don't apply to your question. Just for the record, however, I must say I have never had to pay any taxes for CDs, not even shipments of 10+ CDs. Additionally, a free trade agreement was signed by the government a few years back which loosens the tax laws for shipments even more.

Alex

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 12:07 AM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

I've recently been hit but only by Varese CD Club orders as they use special international delivery. So will probably avoid ordering from them in the future if it is more than one disc.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 1:31 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I haven't noticed any changes and I'm not sure whether supposed 'rules' are real or just apocryphal, i.e. guesses based on what seems to happen.

The bottom line is, if you import something, you are technically liable to pay taxes on that import. Plus an admin fee.

However, they only seem to apply it to packages over a certain value and even then not always.

I remember ordering the Criterion disc of Spartacus and having to pay something like GBP15 (about USD24) on top of what I'd already paid in postage.

On the other hand there are times when I've ordered multiple discs at once, expecting to get hit, and not.

I generally don't get hit when I order a single disc.

What with soaring postal rates, import duties and admin fees, the actual cost of the disc is just a small portion these days.

The total cost of a CD if you do get hit with import duties can be as much as USD40 now.

So, my American friends, next time you complain about the price of CDs plus postage, be grateful at least that you don't also have to import them.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 1:43 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

If there is a 'rule' and that rule is they only tag things over GBP15, well the good news is GBP15 still equates to round about USD24.

So, single discs at USD20 would still be exempt.

Double discs at USD25, however ... hmmm ... they might start getting tagged.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   MD   (Member)

If there is a 'rule' and that rule is they only tag things over GBP15, well the good news is GBP15 still equates to round about USD24.

So, single discs at USD20 would still be exempt.

Double discs at USD25, however ... hmmm ... they might start getting tagged.

Cheers


I don´t know how it is with other countries custom offices but our is adding to the price of CD also shipping fees.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)



I don´t know how it is with other countries custom offices but our is adding to the price of CD also shipping fees.


This is standard in the UK. If the cost is over £15 then tax (VAT) is charged on the £15 plus the amount of postage. Customs do a spot check which is why some get through unscathed but they have certainly stepped up the number of checks over the past year or so (in the past it used to be about 1 in 8 small value packages that were checked - I know that because my work used to involve close liaison with UK Customs). It used to be rare for my packages to get charged but it happens more frequently nowadays.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   Clark Wayne   (Member)

As with direct income taxes, there is a crackdown in the UK on all ways to collect money for the exchequer.

You will find that a lot more imported items get hit with charges these days.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

Although I was aware of the general principles I got caught-out last year when buying a number of CDs from SAE ... I took advantage of some of their sale bargains, added to a few full-priced releases ...

... only to be charged another GBP10.00-15.00 or so by our Royal Mail.

The actual VAT charge is minimal (relatively speaking) ... it's the Royal Mail's handling charge which is annoying! I think this was the substantial part ... perhaps GBP8.00 of that total amount.

The following is relevant for us EU customers:
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/tiin/tiin874.pdf

and, yes, the threshold is GBP15.00 for the UK.

Of course, not every parcel will be caught but that's the law of the land

I note that SAE value their CDs at USD5.00 a disc ... irrespective of the sales price (I can't recall whether double CDs are USD10.00 ,etc.) and you will see this value on the Customs Certificate. Other US retailers use the retail selling price ... or at least they did the last time I ordered from either/both Intrada/VS.

Mitch

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I *thought* the UK did its customs charges based purely on the value of the item, not the value of the item plus the value of the postage.

After all, it's the item you're importing, not the postage.

But I could not claim to be an expert.

They clearly work on the green customs declaration ticket which states the item value. It's the only thing they've got to go on.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

I *thought* the UK did its customs charges based purely on the value of the item, not the value of the item plus the value of the postage.

After all, it's the item you're importing, not the postage.

But I could not claim to be an expert.

They clearly work on the green customs declaration ticket which states the item value. It's the only thing they've got to go on.


I'm in the UK and have two separate orders coming from LLL - The Golden Child, which should be OK, and Wavelength/Thundercats/Bodyguard which may not be...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   BROMHEAD1   (Member)

I have been using LLL and SCREEN ARCHIVES and INTRADA for years now and have never in all the 100s of cds i have ordered had to pay customs here in the UK.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   BROMHEAD1   (Member)

I have been using LLL and SCREEN ARCHIVES and INTRADA for years now and have never in all the 100s of cds i have ordered had to pay customs here in the UK.[/endq

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   BROMHEAD1   (Member)

I *thought* the UK did its customs charges based purely on the value of the item, not the value of the item plus the value of the postage.

After all, it's the item you're importing, not the postage.

But I could not claim to be an expert.

They clearly work on the green customs declaration ticket which states the item value. It's the only thing they've got to go on.


Its all changed here in the UK customs are totally corrupt and charge you for the value of the goods and the postage as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   Roy Donga   (Member)

I read today that customs can now charge for items priced at least £15 (rather than £20) being shipped from the US to Europe. Has anyone had any experience of more customs charges lately for items shipped from SAE/LLL/Intrada etc?

I quite fancy three CDs in the LLL sale but I don't fancy a customs charge bang on top of it. I have never had a problem but it's been a while since I put in an order...[/end-quote]

LLL are great for me
I took advantage of their sale too and I'm now enjoying 2usd worth of CDs
Oops a typo got in there somehow

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   BROMHEAD1   (Member)

I read today that customs can now charge for items priced at least £15 (rather than £20) being shipped from the US to Europe. Has anyone had any experience of more customs charges lately for items shipped from SAE/LLL/Intrada etc?

I quite fancy three CDs in the LLL sale but I don't fancy a customs charge bang on top of it. I have never had a problem but it's been a while since I put in an order...


I have used LLL ect for years and Screen Archives and have never had Custom trouble here in the UK.You should have no problems at all.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 3:54 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

I *thought* the UK did its customs charges based purely on the value of the item, not the value of the item plus the value of the postage.

After all, it's the item you're importing, not the postage.

But I could not claim to be an expert.

They clearly work on the green customs declaration ticket which states the item value. It's the only thing they've got to go on.


I'm in the UK and have two separate orders coming from LLL - The Golden Child, which should be OK, and Wavelength/Thundercats/Bodyguard which may not be...


Both parcels, including the package with three CDs (four if you count a 2-CD set) have arrived in the UK and I wasn't charged by customs at all. Delighted! big grin

 
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