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Apr 19, 2014 - 8:44 AM
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mastadge
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Now I guess I could still have a beaf they are letting their dogs go on my property instead of their own.
I've gotten this reaction before, and I don't know how to respond to it, because there's not really any "letting" about it. I live in the city, so I don't have a yard of my own. I walk my dog at least a couple times a day -- in the morning, about a half-mile to a park and then back; in the afternoon, a 2-mile loop around another park. But if he has to go before we get to the park, it's not as if I can tell him to pinch it and wait. I presume it's a similar situation with your neighbor. She'd probably prefer that the dogs go on her property, but we don't get to choose the most convenient time for them to void their bowels!
Some people get really upset about it this stuff. I always walk my dog on the street side of the sidewalk, so if he goes it's on the strip rather than on someone's lawn. Also, I always carry bags. (Naturally, the two or three times a year my dog goes more than once on a walk always, always fall on days when I am down to my last bag, so I have to make a return trip to clean it up.) Once my dog went before we reached the park, and I was down there, bag in hand, in the act of cleaning it up, when the lady who lived there came out and started yelling Why don't you take him to the park for that? People never pick up the shit!, etc. I didn't really know what to say, since I was being yelled at for not doing the very thing I was in the process of doing, so I just apologized and moved on.
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Apr 19, 2014 - 2:09 PM
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betenoir
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Well in my case the neighbors do have a front and back yard. They could let their dogs in the back yard. It's fenced in. Or walk on their front property. Shouldn't have to cross my street. Perhaps dogs instinctively don't want to poop on their own grounds?
Indeed, most dogs do not like to poop where they live, if they have an option, and will try to hold it until they are somewhere else. This is generally true for most any dog that is housebroken and is not confined to a yard or dog run all or most of the time. We live in the forest on 4 acres, but we walk our dogs daily, and they always try to hold it until we are walking elsewhere if they can, to avoid going near our house. We have a fenced dog run area that they can enter via a dog door at any time they choose, and they will defecate there if they can't wait until a walk, but they try not to. We did not try to train them to go elsewhere, just of course to go outside and not in the house. Dogs don't like to foul their own nests. Sometimes we dog-sit guest dogs, and they will happily go in our driveway, the dog run, or the woods next to the house, because they don't consider it their own territory.
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I don't own a dog, but live in a neighborhood with lots of folks who do. I enjoy greeting the little pets, and if they happen to poop on my lawn, I always figure the manure is good for the soil. I try not to pet the sweaty things or sweat the petty things.  But…I DON'T LIKE STEPPING IN IT!!!
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Apr 19, 2014 - 6:03 PM
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mastadge
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Any farmer knows that stuff is wonderful for the soil, you would be wrong to complain, she is doing you a favor.
Not so! You do not want to use carnivore/omnivore poop in your compost. The microbes and potential pathogens in your guts or those of a dog or cat are very different than in, say, a cow or horse, and can harm the microbes you want in your soil, or can in some cases make your edibles unsafe for consumption. And even if you're not growing edibles, letting the poop sit on the surface instead of burying it leaves any potential toxins or pathogens to run off with rainwater, etc into the local watershed (or into your neighbor's edibles!).
There are some circumstances where it's more or less okay -- if you have an extremely hot compost pile, or if you have a worm bin so the worms can break down the poops into worm castings before you use them -- but in general you don't want dog poops in your garden!
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"Not so! You do not want to use carnivore/omnivore poop in your compost."
That may be the truth. I haven't the first clue about such things. All that I KNOW is that my neighborhood has dozens of dogs, and our grass is the thickest and the greenest every Spring!
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Oh, solium, I did not miss the point of your message. Sorry we've all gone off into the poopesphere. I truly appreciate what you said about the incident. You wrote it all out quite beautifully, and I'm glad you posted it here. Your story does give us pause to consider what facts may have "fallen through the cracks" of our limited powers of observation before we render a verdict.
THANKS!
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Indeed, most dogs do not like to poop where they live, if they have an option, and will try to hold it until they are somewhere else. This is generally true for most any dog that is housebroken and is not confined to a yard or dog run all or most of the time. We live in the forest on 4 acres, but we walk our dogs daily, and they always try to hold it until we are walking elsewhere if they can, to avoid going near our house. .
All my dogs have had no problem going in our yard, they just don’t generally like to poop where they sleep. That’s why crate training can be successful. Every dog is different, however, and some just don’t care where they go and some are fastidious. Some even eat it, disgustingly.
Well in my case the neighbors do have a front and back yard. They could let their dogs in the back yard. It's fenced in. Or walk on their front property. Shouldn't have to cross my street. Perhaps dogs instinctively don't want to poop on their on grounds?
However, a lot of people walk their dogs for the exercise. For breeds larger than the average Pug, running around the yard just doesn’t cut it. They need brisk and long walks. Just so happens that a dog will go when it wants to go, walking or out in the grass at home. The pet owners are the ones who should know better and always carry bags to clean up – and never let them go on another person’s lawn. That’s just simple courtesy.
Any farmer knows that stuff is wonderful for the soil, you would be wrong to complain, she is doing you a favor.
No, feces are not good for your lawn.
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All pooping aside. The point of my post was I assumed on pretty credible evidence a certain neighbor was letting their dogs do their business on my property and not pick it up. It wasn't until I got to see "the whole picture" that my assumptions were wrong. Makes sure you have all the facts before coming to a conclusion.
But you are not looking at the whole picture. Your neighbor is letting her dog use your yard for her dog to relieve itself. Even if she comes out and picks it up the scent is still there, so the next dog (on a leash or not) that comes by smells it an decides to mark the territory with his/her scent and the process goes on and on. My Dad had the same problem with his house. He put up little fences and some flower beds and the neighbors dogs could no longer use it because they can not get to the lawn. He had neighbor that would come out and clean up after their dogs 50% of the time. Most of the times they cleaned it up they knew they were being watched.
We no longer have pets with my Dad's failing health, but we always believed that we needed to clean up after our pets and we do not like to clean up after someone pet. We were downtown a few weeks ago and passed a lady whose dog just used the sidewalk, there was no grass and the dog had to go. After the dog went #2, she just started on her way. Another pedestrian shouted at her, "Excuse me Miss, are you going to clean up after your dog?" The lady turned around and looked at the man and then just went on her way. When we came out of the store 1/2 hour later, the piles was still there and the store owner next door had come out to clean it up. That is just not right.
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Put a dummy camera out there facing the spot.
You know months ago I was tempted to make a sign and place it near the mailbox. "If your dog goes on my property, it will be shot on the spot!" LOL Now I wouldn't actually do that. But sometimes a threat is good enough, right?
With your sign and a laser pointer you could have some fun. They would think you do have a gun.
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