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 Posted:   Apr 27, 2014 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

I have had the Prometheus 3-cd set of Nic Raine's complete Dimitri Tiomkin score for the 1960 'The Alamo' in my cart at Intrada, off and on for the past 4 years. In those 4 years, various things had popped-up (namely money of course), to make me remove it from the cart. Finally, I ordered it and it arrived yesterday. This Tiomkin score has immediately moved to the very top of my scores of his - it's now my favorite. There are others of course that are terrific, 'The Fall of the Roman Empire', 'The High and the Mighty', & 'High Noon', as well as others. But this score is astounding! Doug Fake's comments on Intrada's website is accurate:"Vivid, close mike recording captures incredible detail, complexity of Tiomkin masterpiece."
'The Green Leaves of Summer' is argueably my favorite song written for a film. This recording by The City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra and Crouch End Festival Chorus sounds even better than the original recording. The Film of 'The Alamo'? Saw it once, that was enough for me. I'm not sure how exactly I can love a score as much as this one, and just 'write off' the film it's attached to, but, there it is. This massive score, and it's hefty price, are well worth the money spent!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 27, 2014 - 11:16 PM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

I'm not sure how exactly I can love a score as much as this one, and just 'write off' the film it's attached to, but, there it is.

No mystery there; they're two different things. How could I love Sodom & Gomorrah so much if I had to continually link it to the film? I'm sure Tiomkin was very well aware of what a mediocre effort The alamo was, but that didn't stop him writing a brilliant score, just as it didn't stop Rozsa or Newman from writing brilliant scores to very indifferent films. Problem is, though they say a good score can't save a bad film, a bad film can sure as hell sink a good score.

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 4:16 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

My own is the Sony, complete with sound effects and dialog. Wayne's "Republic" speech is there in buckets and spades. When I first saw the film as a youngster, it made a big impression. But it was only a part of the whole historic picture and it took time before the Texian revolt and it's aftermath came into focus.

The main events were the siege of the Alamo, the Goliad massacre and destruction of Santa Ana's force at San Jacinto. The wholesale massacre of mexican troops in Peggy's Lake was payback for the Alamo and Fannin's brutal execution (as well as his whole command) by firing squad. By obtaining terms and conditions from a vanquished enemy and securing Texas for all time, Houston got his name chiselled.

I've always loved the music to The Final Assault as well as the Overture. Unless anyone knows otherwise, Tiomkin couldn't have scored the picture so well if he thought it was pure turkey. It wasn't so far removed from the well trod style of it's time. I'll always be able to watch it another day. And that 3-CD set as well as QB VII are clear indicators that rerecordings can come out on top.

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 4:54 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

It's a fantastic rerecording, I've had it since release and I still listen to it pretty often. It's one of my favourite ever scores, and I'm not a huge Tiomkin fan.

Incidentally, Matt Monro's version of 'The Green Leaves of Summer' is among the very best I've heard.

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Gotta agree, Montana Dave, this is one bad-ass score given a bad-ass performance and recording by Raine/City of Prague Philharmonic.

As to the movie, John Wayne had stepped on so many toes in Hollywood during the '50s Red Scare (not America's first Red Scare!) that much of the press and talent had it in for him on this project.

I think this movie has highlights, just not a whole lot.

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Love this score so much. One of the sets I wasn't willing to cut up to put in my new massive CD case. So many fantastic themes and well-done renditions of songs.

 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 12:01 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Love this score so much. One of the sets I wasn't willing to cut up to put in my new massive CD case. So many fantastic themes and well-done renditions of songs.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 28, 2014 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   Loverozsa   (Member)

I agree. Just one of many re-recordings we can thank Prometheus for! Bravo!

 
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