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When they reissued the picture they cut three-quarters of an hour out of it. .
And it's still too long 
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double post
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And it's still too long
You REALLY want to experience too long, try the uncut HEAVEN'S GATE. As one review said "it's like taking a guided tour of your living room". I'd love to see JOAN on blu-ray, either version, since the standard DVD does not do it justice and it is much more interesting than my living room.
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May 1, 2014 - 10:31 PM
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manderley
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.....I'd love to hear the entire score in a new recording. Does anyone know if the complete score still exists in any form? My guess is no.....
I remember that Hugo had bound conductor copies of some of his scores at his apartment before his death. I don't remember the titles, however, so JOAN OF ARC may or may not have been among them. I believe his material went to BYU on his death. Perhaps it could be found among his things there.
JOAN OF ARC is one of his classic scores, so a re-recording would be wonderful. But, unfortunately, a Friedhofer score as a saleable commodity is always problematic and a re-recording of this would be very expensive.
Perhaps a film music producer somewhere needs a huge loss tax write-off and would tackle this......
I would like to see someone like Criterion release the long version of the film on Blu-ray, but also include the shortened, highly-edited version on the disc too. This short version is quite different in its way and is an interesting comparison.
The film won Oscars for its beautiful 3-strip Technicolor photography (by Joseph Valentine, William V. Skall, and Winton Hoch) and costume design (by Dorothy Jeakins and Karinska), and was also nominated for its Art Direction (by Richard Day) --- so the film looks beautiful. Hugo's score was also nominated, among several other nominations.
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I'd love to hear this piece of music, but, unfortunately, when I click on that site, I go to the site, itself, but the screen for the music is charcoal grey blank, with no way to start it.
Oh well.
Maybe some other time.
JOAN OF ARC was a roadshow; I found a copy of souvenir program, and still have it.
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Hi, Hugo Friedhofer's own copy and the studio's piano score is at BYU. For a re recording it needs to be orchestrated and more vital financed.
I have tried to find the owner of the rights for the score. It would be nice if somebody here in this forum knows about who the copyright owners are.
Hans Sørensen
PS: I have Hugo's original orchestral score for the prelude, and we did the premier performance at a concert in Copenhagen.
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The Prelude/
http://hugofriedhofer.runmovies.eu/?p=673
I was so thrilled to hear this Prelude after all these years of doubting whether the roadshow overture ever actually existed. What an inspiring piece of music. Beautifully performed too (and recorded); it would have been great if the orchestra had been able to lead us into the film's magnificent extended main title as well!
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Finally figured out how to hear this. (Yet another "senior moment." Ah well.)
Gorgeous piece of music and recording!
(Wonder if the original was all orchestral, or did it include choral involvement?)
Would love to hear this entire score re-recorded.
In spite of THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES, I still think this is Friedhofer's masterpiece.
I think it has been overshadowed by the quality of the film it accompanies, which has its moments, but is nevertheless quite plodding to sit through. And another factor was that it was neither produced nor released by a major studio, so that the likelihood of any elements surviving was minimal.
(And, yes, the 100 minute version is a very different, re-edited presentation of the same story, with narration by Sheppard Strudwick. Since this is all I saw for years, I was never able to understand what all the fuss was about.)
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