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 Posted:   May 21, 2014 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

Warner Bros. is bringing director Vincente Minnelli's Kismet to Blu-ray by way of the Warner Archive Collection. The 1955 musical stars Howard Keel, Ann Blyth, Dolores Gray, Vic Damone, Monty Woolley, Sebastian Cabot, Jay C. Flippen, Mike Mazurki and Jack Elam. No release date has been announced, but Amazon is already accepting pre-orders.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14030

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 1:26 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

Nobody seems to have commented on this yet, so I must:

Warners has done a really nice job on the Blu-rays of GYPSY and BILLY ROSE'S JUMBO, and I hear the HIT THE DECK transfer is beautiful too, so I'm really looking forward to this one.

Certainly not the greatest of the Minnelli/MGM musicals, but the cast is excellent, the performance of the songs beautiful, and the art direction, costumes and photography quite colorful and exotic.

It should be spectacular on Blu-ray and is a wonderful, unexpected surprise for those of us who still love these kinds of films. (The 1944 MGM KISMET, though with only a few, relatively undistinguished songs, is also an entertaining film of its sort, and the production, in 3-strip Technicolor is also quite spectacular. It would have been nice for WB to put both films on one Blu-ray, but I feel certain they haven't done that. Too bad.)

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 4:47 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

And the great Jack Cole choreographed both MGM versions, plus the Broadway stage musical.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

I wish they had used Henry Calvin as the Wazir as opposed to Sebastian Cabot maybe they would have left the Wazir's song in which I am fairly certain is not in the movie. Calvin played the Wazir on Broadway and in the Lincoln Center revival and is best known as Sgt. Garcia on the TV series Zorro as well as being Oliver Hardy to Dick Van Dyke's Stan Laurel on the Dick Van Dyke Show.


All that being said I'm looking forward to the Blu Ray release.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

This film had a troubled production history which is well described in an article on the TCM website. Minnelli didn't want to direct it because he had hated the stage production. He agreed only when MGM offered him the carrot of directing LUST FOR LIFE. Even then he wasn't all that engaged with KISMET, spending more time preparing for LFL. Stanley Donen had to finish the film. Jack Cole created a lot of special choreography that ended up on the cutting room floor. It seems no one was happy with the result.

http://www.tcm.com/this-month/article/411149%7C97644/Kismet.html

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Well, I added it to my Amazon shopping cart, and will finalize it when I can think of something else to add to wipe out the shipping. Haven't thought about "Kismet" in ages. (Added the soundtrack for "The Martian Chronicles" and finalized it.)

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 2:34 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

What was truly RIGHT and RIGHTEOUS about "Kismet" is the resoundingly glorious music treatment provided by the MGM Music Department under the baton of Maestro Andre Previn. The score is sublime and the performances by the MGM Studio Orchestra and Chorus are among the best I have ever heard.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

What was truly RIGHT and RIGHTEOUS about "Kismet" is the resoundingly glorious music treatment provided by the MGM Music Department under the baton of Maestro Andre Previn. The score is sublime and the performances by the MGM Studio Orchestra and Chorus are among the best I have ever heard.

I agree, Ron. The score does sound glorious here and Mr Preview does a great job with it.

Whilst I do love the score, (which is sadly, and annoyingly, truncated!) i’ve never been a huge fan of this movie.

I think the main problem is that, just like Minnelli’s “The Pirate” and “Brigadoon”, the piece is totally airless, and has a claustrophobic feel to it.

Maybe it’s the book ?....I don’t know ??

It would have been interesting to see what Stanley Donen could have done had he had sole charge of it.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

What was truly RIGHT and RIGHTEOUS about "Kismet" is the resoundingly glorious music treatment provided by the MGM Music Department under the baton of Maestro Andre Previn. The score is sublime and the performances by the MGM Studio Orchestra and Chorus are among the best I have ever heard.

My favorite orchestrations from any MGM musical, with the possible exception of THE UNSINKABLE MOLLY BROWN.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 7:07 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

What was truly RIGHT and RIGHTEOUS about "Kismet" is the resoundingly glorious music treatment provided by the MGM Music Department under the baton of Maestro Andre Previn. The score is sublime and the performances by the MGM Studio Orchestra and Chorus are among the best I have ever heard.

My favorite orchestrations from any MGM musical, with the possible exception of THE UNSINKABLE MOLLY BROWN.


The original MGM Kismet soundtrack LP was one of the best of that period, IMO (one of my first). The Rhino expanded stereo CD is also excellent but does not include the bits of dialog included with the original LP.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 8:36 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

Nobody seems to have commented on this yet, so I must:

Warners has done a really nice job on the Blu-rays of GYPSY and BILLY ROSE'S JUMBO, and I hear the HIT THE DECK transfer is beautiful too, so I'm really looking forward to this one.

Certainly not the greatest of the Minnelli/MGM musicals, but the cast is excellent, the performance of the songs beautiful, and the art direction, costumes and photography quite colorful and exotic.

It should be spectacular on Blu-ray and is a wonderful, unexpected surprise for those of us who still love these kinds of films. (The 1944 MGM KISMET, though with only a few, relatively undistinguished songs, is also an entertaining film of its sort, and the production, in 3-strip Technicolor is also quite spectacular. It would have been nice for WB to put both films on one Blu-ray, but I feel certain they haven't done that. Too bad.)


I am with you, manderley -- this is a great choice for Blu-ray - and the '44 version would definitely be a great "bonus" -- hopefully next sale at WB Archives, I will order HIT THE DECK + KISMET.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2014 - 10:27 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

Nobody seems to have commented on this yet, so I must:

Warners has done a really nice job on the Blu-rays of GYPSY and BILLY ROSE'S JUMBO, and I hear the HIT THE DECK transfer is beautiful too, so I'm really looking forward to this one.

Certainly not the greatest of the Minnelli/MGM musicals, but the cast is excellent, the performance of the songs beautiful, and the art direction, costumes and photography quite colorful and exotic.

It should be spectacular on Blu-ray and is a wonderful, unexpected surprise for those of us who still love these kinds of films. (The 1944 MGM KISMET, though with only a few, relatively undistinguished songs, is also an entertaining film of its sort, and the production, in 3-strip Technicolor is also quite spectacular. It would have been nice for WB to put both films on one Blu-ray, but I feel certain they haven't done that. Too bad.)


I with you, manderley -- this is a great choice for Blu-ray - and the '44 version would definitely be a great "bonus" -- hopefully next sale at WB Archives, I will order HIT THE DECK + KISMET.



On various internet sites, a number of people have commented on the fact that BILLY ROSE'S JUMBO, HIT THE DECK, and now KISMET, are not the tip-top musicals MGM is known for, even though the production quality of the films (and the Warners Blu-ray transfers) is of the highest order.

But for me, having some of these "lesser-famed" musicals in Blu-ray transfers is a delightful and unexpected gift.

The famous and iconic musicals have already, or will be inevitably, released on Blu-ray, so it's especially nice to have these kinds of 2nd tier films in our hands before the Blu-ray era ends.

Others from MGM that I'd love to have on Blu-ray, and which don't have the iconic status of classics, include LES GIRLS, YOLANDA AND THE THIEF (particularly glorious in Technicolor), DEEP IN MY HEART, THE STUDENT PRINCE, ROSE MARIE, the 1952 MERRY WIDOW (also a Technicolor wallow), JUPITER'S DARLING, LOVELY TO LOOK AT, and THE TOAST OF NEW ORLEANS, among many others.

There are, of course, so many "possibles" in this group of vault films, that it will be interesting to see what reaches us, if the releasing process continues. I'm sure, however, that much will depend on how successful the sales figures are for films falling into these categories. So, if you love them, you'll have to support them like I'll be doing.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

UPDATE.

The Blu-ray edition of Kismet is presented in 2.55:1 1080p with DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 surround. Special features include:
•Oscar-Nominated Short: The Battle of Gettysburg
•Classic Cartoon: The First Bad Man
•2 Excerpts from The MGM Parade TV Series
•Outtake Song Sequence - "Rahadlakum"
•Audio-Only Bonus: Outtake Song - "Rhymes Have I"
•Theatrical Trailers of Both the 1944 and 1955 Kismet

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14073

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

My Amazon pre-order has been in since last week. Looking forward to it.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

There are, of course, so many "possibles" in this group of vault films, that it will be interesting to see what reaches us, if the releasing process continues. I'm sure, however, that much will depend on how successful the sales figures are for films falling into these categories. So, if you love them, you'll have to support them like I'll be doing.

It was my understanding, although I may be mistaken, that these Warner Archive Blu ray issues are made on demand. So, if that's true, sales won't really be an issue as they'll only press what they need to fill orders.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

There are, of course, so many "possibles" in this group of vault films, that it will be interesting to see what reaches us, if the releasing process continues. I'm sure, however, that much will depend on how successful the sales figures are for films falling into these categories. So, if you love them, you'll have to support them like I'll be doing.

It was my understanding, although I may be mistaken, that these Warner Archive Blu ray issues are made on demand. So, if that's true, sales won't really be an issue as they'll only press what they need to fill orders.


I understand that the Archive Blu-rays are proper pressed discs (unlike the DVD's). I don't have any yet (but The Wind & The Lion is on its way). Kismet really isn't my thing, but it's on BBC2 tomorrow in HD so I'll have a look what it looks like. I hope Warner steps up their Archive releases, they really are sitting on a mountain of movies.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 4:07 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

There are, of course, so many "possibles" in this group of vault films, that it will be interesting to see what reaches us, if the releasing process continues. I'm sure, however, that much will depend on how successful the sales figures are for films falling into these categories. So, if you love them, you'll have to support them like I'll be doing.

It was my understanding, although I may be mistaken, that these Warner Archive Blu ray issues are made on demand. So, if that's true, sales won't really be an issue as they'll only press what they need to fill orders.



It's been said publicly that these Warners Archive BLU-RAY discs are pressed, and these 1 or 2 Archive Blu-rays a month are a great plus for the film collector market in terms of their reliability and quality.

Privately I think they feel that there are still enough bugs in the Blu-ray on-demand burning
system that they don't want to take chances on reliability. I would think the Blu-rays
are far more chancey to do as singles---even if it might work most of the time for them.
They probably don't want the issues of having to re-do the ones that don't.

Warner Archive has now fairly-well proven itself with the immediate reliability of the standard DVD-r burns so most people are happy with them and are buying them in greater numbers than when the company concept was begun 3+ years ago. (Fox, on the other hand, STILL has to learn about quality issues, screen ratios, and ancient VHS transfers to DVD. It's too, too sad, considering how much wonderful Fox film product is available in the library.)

The BIG elephant in the room for everyone (and it's not BILLY ROSE'S JUMBO), is how long the standard burned DVD-Rs will last and will still play properly.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2014 - 8:05 AM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)


BBC2 just showed it in HD.

It looked gorgeous....magnificent costumes and sets and, despite all it’s faults (listed earlier), I rather enjoyed it.

The music is beautiful (of course!_ and Andre Previn is in top form. I noticed however that there is quite a bit of the wonderful underscore that is not on the Ryko CD. Pity !

Some casting faults...Henry Calvin would have been a much better Wazir and help lighten the proceedings a little....Dolores Gray actually does look rather bored ?.....and, as an actor, Vic Damone is a great singer !

Stanley Donen - Where Art Thou ????

I shall probably weaken and buy the Blu-Ray because it looks so ravishing.






 
 Posted:   May 28, 2014 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Was the soundtrack issued on Ryko in the UK? Here, it was lavishly released on Rhino. These are the track listings:

1. Main Title(Not Since NIneveh Stranger In Paradise) - The M-G-M Studio Orchestra
2. Rhymes Have I - Howard Keel, Ann Blyth And Chorus
3. Fate - Howard Keel
4. Bazaar Of The Caravans - The M-G-M Studio Orchestra
5. Not Since Nineveh - The M-G-M Studio Chorus And Orchestra
6. Dabba (Stranger In Paradise) - The M-G-M Studio Orchestra
7. Baubles, Bangles, And Beads - The M-G-M Studio Chorus
8. I Am A Gardener - The M-G-M Studio Orchestra
9. Stranger in Paradise - Ann Blyth And Vic Damone
10. Gesticulate - Howard Keel,Dolores Gray, The M-G-M Studio Chorus
11. Bored - Dolores Gray
12. Fate - Howard Keel,Dolores Gray, The M-G-M Studio Chorus
13. Night Of My Nights - Vic Damone And The M-G-M Studio Chorus
14. The Olive Tree - Howard Keel
15. Rahadlakum - Dolores Gray, Howard Keel, Betty Wand,....
16. Marsinah Arrives At Castle/I'm In Love/Certain.... - The M-G-M Studio Orchestra
17. And This Is My Beloved - Howard Keel, Ann Blyth, Vic Damone
18. Innocent Amusement (Medley: And This Is My..... - The M-G-M Studio Orchestra
19. Diwan Dances, Part One - The M-G-M Studio Orchestra
20. Diwan Dances, Part Two - The M-G-M Studio Orchestra
21. Drowning Scene/Sentence (Fate) - The M-G-M Studio Orchestra
22. Sands Of Time/End Title - Howard Keel

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2014 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

There are, of course, so many "possibles" in this group of vault films, that it will be interesting to see what reaches us, if the releasing process continues. I'm sure, however, that much will depend on how successful the sales figures are for films falling into these categories. So, if you love them, you'll have to support them like I'll be doing.

It was my understanding, although I may be mistaken, that these Warner Archive Blu ray issues are made on demand. So, if that's true, sales won't really be an issue as they'll only press what they need to fill orders.



It's been said publicly that these Warners Archive BLU-RAY discs are pressed, and these 1 or 2 Archive Blu-rays a month are a great plus for the film collector market in terms of their reliability and quality.

Privately I think they feel that there are still enough bugs in the Blu-ray on-demand burning
system that they don't want to take chances on reliability. I would think the Blu-rays
are far more chancey to do as singles---even if it might work most of the time for them.
They probably don't want the issues of having to re-do the ones that don't.

Warner Archive has now fairly-well proven itself with the immediate reliability of the standard DVD-r burns so most people are happy with them and are buying them in greater numbers than when the company concept was begun 3+ years ago. (Fox, on the other hand, STILL has to learn about quality issues, screen ratios, and ancient VHS transfers to DVD. It's too, too sad, considering how much wonderful Fox film product is available in the library.)

The BIG elephant in the room for everyone (and it's not BILLY ROSE'S JUMBO), is how long the standard burned DVD-Rs will last and will still play properly.


manderley
why are you concerned that these DVD-Rs will eventually not play properly ? Is there a precedent for this happening ? Warner Archive will replace defective discs - at no charge - and I imagine that this company will be around for many years.

 
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