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 Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

Since the movie is so incredible sucessful and also a very inventive Blockbuster (how rare!) and features that fantastic old school approach, maybe influence of nolan/zimmer will fade away a bit?

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Huh? It was a poor mans Transformers movie. What game changer? And why are there so many non score Godzilla discussions here? This should be on the other side.

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

I can see where the Zimmer connection is a turn off for you, but the idea that Chris Nolan (MEMENTO, BATMAN BEGINS, INCEPTION) isn't an inventive filmmaker is totally alien to me.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

I love Desplat´s score and approach. But I don´t believe the game will be changed anymore. Scores will not revert back to just one style. Just like pop music - scores will diversify even more. There will be symphonic old school scores and there will be sparse electronic soundscapes, and mixes of both, and pop songs instead of composed scores etc.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Huh? It was a poor mans Transformers movie.

I imagine "Huh?" is something you say a lot. That's an odd way to describe a film that isn't anything like Bayformers.

And yes, as far as kaiju cinema goes, maybe it IS a game-changer.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Huh? It was a poor mans Transformers movie.

I imagine "Huh?" is something you say a lot. That's an odd way to describe a film that isn't anything like Bayformers.

And yes, as far as kaiju cinema goes, maybe it IS a game-changer.


"Huh" as in taken aback by a lot of hyperbole. People like the film fine. But to call it a game changer? The score was practically themeless and actually quite annoying in the film. The script was as bright as a Transformers film. Incredibly successful is yet to be determined. It's not like this is in the same league as Titanic, Avatar, or Avengers. I bet at the end of the day, the much hated 98 film adjusted for inflation equals the box office of this incarnation. Game changer? I think not.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

You would need a movie that breaks records like "the dark knight" did as that still seems the reference point for blockbusters in hollywood.

Also, first amazing spiderman with more classic film score by Horner, second one with Zimmer score...; I had to correct myself here as as it stands the first one still made more money, second one equally impressive box office; but undeniable that the Zimmer & Pharrell score had a much bigger impact.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • I love Desplat´s score and approach. But I don´t believe the game will be changed anymore. Scores will not revert back to just one style. Just like pop music - scores will diversify even more. There will be symphonic old school scores and there will be sparse electronic soundscapes, and mixes of both, and pop songs instead of composed scores etc.

    Agreed. I'm not a believer in the much touted "pendulum" theory, or else by such an account, Titanic would have set the new standard. Even the more successful Avatar only registers in common Hollywood practice regarding 3D glut and a slight resurgence of prominent sci-fi.

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     Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 11:27 AM   
     By:   drop_forge   (Member)

    Huh? It was a poor mans Transformers movie.

    I imagine "Huh?" is something you say a lot. That's an odd way to describe a film that isn't anything like Bayformers.

    And yes, as far as kaiju cinema goes, maybe it IS a game-changer.


    "Huh" as in taken aback by a lot of hyperbole. People like the film fine. But to call it a game changer? The score was practically themeless and actually quite annoying in the film. The script was as bright as a Transformers film. Incredibly successful is yet to be determined. It's not like this is in the same league as Titanic, Avatar, or Avengers. I bet at the end of the day, the much hated 98 film adjusted for inflation equals the box office of this incarnation. Game changer? I think not.


    LOL! Nobody expected it to be Titanic, Avatar or Avengers. Godzilla is not universally loved.

    Avengers' success is deserved and well-explained. Titanic was alright but nothing that blew me away.

    Avatar? Now that was the most overrated, unoriginal, overhyped spectacle ever. A threadbare "magic whitey" story that is essentially Pocahontas in space. An alien race that suspiciously resembles Native Americans? It's embarrassing that that movie was as successful as it was. And the "science" in it was awful.

    If Godzilla spawns a new renaissance for kaiju cinema (one particular genre), then yes, it may be a game changer in that respect.

     
     Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 11:37 AM   
     By:   solium   (Member)

    Huh? It was a poor mans Transformers movie.

    I imagine "Huh?" is something you say a lot. That's an odd way to describe a film that isn't anything like Bayformers.

    And yes, as far as kaiju cinema goes, maybe it IS a game-changer.


    "Huh" as in taken aback by a lot of hyperbole. People like the film fine. But to call it a game changer? The score was practically themeless and actually quite annoying in the film. The script was as bright as a Transformers film. Incredibly successful is yet to be determined. It's not like this is in the same league as Titanic, Avatar, or Avengers. I bet at the end of the day, the much hated 98 film adjusted for inflation equals the box office of this incarnation. Game changer? I think not.


    LOL! Nobody expected it to be Titanic, Avatar or Avengers. Godzilla is not universally loved.

    Avengers' success is deserved and well-explained. Titanic was alright but nothing that blew me away.

    Avatar? Now that was the most overrated, unoriginal, overhyped spectacle ever. A threadbare "magic whitey" story that is essentially Pocahontas in space. An alien race that suspiciously resembles Native Americans? It's embarrassing that that movie was as successful as it was. And the "science" in it was awful.

    If Godzilla spawns a new renaissance for kaiju cinema (one particular genre), then yes, it may be a game changer in that respect.


    Don't disagree with your assessment of Avatar, but that by definition was a huge hit. Another way this movie is like a Bay movie is in the fact it's really nothing more than a 2 hour long US military, knights in shinning armor propaganda film. Apparently they even controlled Japan! Didn't we give that back? LOL

     
     Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 12:49 PM   
     By:   drop_forge   (Member)

    Many Godzilla movies feature military might. I didn't realize they were intended to bolster recruitment. LOL!

     
     Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 1:21 PM   
     By:   solium   (Member)

    "Godzilla plummeted 77 percent"

    Source:
    http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3847&p=.htm

    Worse than I predicted. Bwahahahahahahah!!!!

     
     Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 2:06 PM   
     By:   The Mutant   (Member)

    Not sure if it's exactly a game changer, but it's entertaining as hell. Looking forward to the next one and I hope they follow up the Mothra story.

     
     Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 2:27 PM   
     By:   drop_forge   (Member)

    "Godzilla plummeted 77 percent"

    Source:
    http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3847&p=.htm

    Worse than I predicted. Bwahahahahahahah!!!!


    Still unsure what exactly you have against Godzilla the monster and/or movie. There's no way it would not plateau with Days of Future Past coming out the week after.

     
     
     Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 2:34 PM   
     By:   Octoberman   (Member)

    Still unsure what exactly you have against Godzilla the monster and/or movie. There's no way it would not plateau with Days of Future Past coming out the week after.


    I wouldn't say that it's anything to do with Godzilla, specifically, but more to do with the media (and the Pavlovian public who ride its coat-tails) who try to act like they have some sort of special superior intelligence predicting a movie's success. The smugness frequently on display should be taken down a notch once in awhile.

     
     Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 2:45 PM   
     By:   drop_forge   (Member)

    Still unsure what exactly you have against Godzilla the monster and/or movie. There's no way it would not plateau with Days of Future Past coming out the week after.


    I wouldn't say that it's anything to do with Godzilla, specifically, but more to do with the media (and the Pavlovian public who ride its coat-tails) who try to act like they have some sort of special superior intelligence predicting a movie's success. The smugness frequently on display should be taken down a notch once in awhile.


    The same media responsible for lines like "DoFP gives Avengers a run for its money"?

    Here's a good one: "Iron Man 3 is the best one yet!"

    As I said, G-love is not universal, but a lot of people gave Godzilla a chance. I'm glad we're going to see more. The next movie will be better and will probably incorporate some familiar [monster] faces.

    Why should crap like Bayformers keep happening?

     
     Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 2:52 PM   
     By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

    That's a pretty horrendous drop for Godzilla. I think it basically delivered for hardcore Godzilla fans (like me!) but didn't offer much for a typical moviegoer to relate to.

     
     Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 3:34 PM   
     By:   drop_forge   (Member)

    That's a pretty horrendous drop for Godzilla. I think it basically delivered for hardcore Godzilla fans (like me!) but didn't offer much for a typical moviegoer to relate to.

    People expected a very different film, I guess. One where Godzilla is the bad guy and everyone is running and hiding from him for 2 hours. We got some of that, but I like the end result, even if I would've tweaked it a bit.

    The movie got solium's money, either way! big grin

     
     Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 3:41 PM   
     By:   solium   (Member)

    Still unsure what exactly you have against Godzilla the monster and/or movie. There's no way it would not plateau with Days of Future Past coming out the week after.


    I wouldn't say that it's anything to do with Godzilla, specifically, but more to do with the media (and the Pavlovian public who ride its coat-tails) who try to act like they have some sort of special superior intelligence predicting a movie's success. The smugness frequently on display should be taken down a notch once in awhile.


    This. wink And you read my mind. I almost wrote, " I laugh at the superior intellect", in my previous post but didn't. For the record I wanted to see a great Godzilla film. I wanted it to be a success. But it failed for me big time. (Though some sequences by themselves were awesome)

    The studio, director, and die hard fans can say it was a smashing hit all they want, but the box office speaks for itself.


    Edit:
    The movie got solium's money, either way! big grin

    And that's fine. I saw promise in the trailers and took a chance. As stated above I liked parts of the film. smile

     
     
     Posted:   May 24, 2014 - 4:05 PM   
     By:   dan the man   (Member)

    Even though it took a drop, if it adds 30 to 40 million to it's 100 million with the Asian market to come would be safe to say it will land up in the black? Can we all agree with that simple math.Who said it was going to be a STAR WARS.I think that is why they are making another one with that great beginning, it couldn't flop, and very unlikely loose money. I am sure it will be a smash on DVD and other markets.

     
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