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 Posted:   May 25, 2014 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   madmovyman   (Member)

My computer is getting old. It sometimes won't boot without some kind of disc repair at start. If I buy one of those Windows 7 official Microsoft programs, can I re-install my operating system and overwrite everything on my computer, so I have an almost like brand-new computer. Yes, I know I will have to download all the crap that will be erased. I just need a good system to start fresh.

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2014 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

There is no reason you can't. Old isn't quite the dirty word the stores would have you think it is.
You only need to make sure some of your components are up to snuff, such as your processor, sound & video cards, etc.
Some of our resident techies will weigh in with better advice.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

My computer is getting old. It sometimes won't boot without some kind of disc repair at start. If I buy one of those Windows 7 official Microsoft programs, can I re-install my operating system and overwrite everything on my computer, so I have an almost like brand-new computer. Yes, I know I will have to download all the crap that will be erased. I just need a good system to start fresh.

I am a decent techie and can offer you some advice. First of all, what is your current OS; XP or Vista? Also, do you have an external hard drive? You also need to consider the size of your hard drive and your ram. Most overlays suggest a minimum of a gig of ram and and a 100g hard drive.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I've got an older 32-bit machine with a Foxconn motherboard. It runs XP like a dream. I tried Windows 7 (also 32-bit) on it and - guess what? There was a nasty configuration problem which I could never get to the bottom of. It manifested itself as a prolonged and intermittent freezing up of the complete system for minutes on end. The strange thing is that it appeared to work in real time with acceptable speed and response except for this regular and intermittent freezing up of the system - which could go on for between 3, 5 and 10 minutes at a stretch.

In grappling with the problem I almost went blue in the face trying to pin down what was wrong. To this day I have no idea if the problem could be easily fixed or whether there is a deep incompatibility between the machine hardware and Windows 7 itself. If the newer OS had run smoothly it would be ruling the roost, but, I've had to revert to XP because that glitch drove me beyond nuts.

The glitch did not manifest itself when running the machine in safe mode with networking. It could be down to anything. So, beware!

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   madmovyman   (Member)

Update: I used AVG to fix my registry which had 3,556 errors. D'oh!

Anyway, after I did that all my music files disappeared! Every time I go into My Music, I get an error message that the "file" is corrupted. I searched my library of music and all the tracks still seem to be on my computer... I just can't figure out where!?! There are no files in Public Music and no files in My Music. I'm still waiting to see if my computer takes 8-12 minutes to boot up, but I'm about ready to buy a new computer and just say the hell with it. I can get a refurbished for $169.

I have Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium with 2GB of RAM, 53 gigabytes of used space and 17 gigabytes of free space. I have a lot of pictures and videos that take up most of the hard drive. My music files were probably about 4 gigabytes but, as I've said, they are missing.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Update: I used AVG to fix my registry which had 3,556 errors. D'oh!

Anyway, after I did that all my music files disappeared! Every time I go into My Music, I get an error message that the "file" is corrupted. I searched my library of music and all the tracks still seem to be on my computer... I just can't figure out where!?! There are no files in Public Music and no files in My Music. I'm still waiting to see if my computer takes 8-12 minutes to boot up, but I'm about ready to buy a new computer and just say the hell with it. I can get a refurbished for $169.

I have Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium with 2GB of RAM, 53 gigabytes of used space and 17 gigabytes of free space. I have a lot of pictures and videos that take up most of the hard drive. My music files were probably about 4 gigabytes but, as I've said, they are missing.


Your music files have to be somewhere on your hard drive. You may also be able to undo the AVG registry cleaning you did. If you can, then you need to back-up your music files and every important file (pictures, documents) before you do any system transfer etc.

Try this somewhat simplistic fix. In your search box, type .mp3. When you do, you get the results in 4 categories - Programs, Documents, Music, Files. Click on the Music catergory and it should bring you to your music files. Under File chose Save Search and save it to your desktop. Once on your desktop, pick through it and see what you find. If you have your music saved in iTunes, search .mpeg and do the same search process. If you have wav files, search .wav. Remember:

.mp3
.mpeg
.wav

You need to invest in an external hard drive of at least a terabyte to back-up your important things. Hope this simple process works. I have used it in the past.

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

You need to invest in an external hard drive of at least a terabyte to back-up your important things.


Funny thing about externals. I've heard so many people say to me, "Eh, I'd never need one". Then once they got one it was, "How did I get along all this time without one?".
LOL

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   madmovyman   (Member)

I found all my music in the library, but still cannot access the files that are invisible to me.

I'm going to Best Buy tomorrow to buy a Seagate external device. Thanks for all the answers. I'm just working my way through it.

By the way, I rebooted recently and I'm still getting that message about "check disc" and my computer goes through a 5 minute ordeal of deleting unknown file extensions and "other junk" that is corrupting my hard drive, sigh...

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Mad, this may seem too dumb to ask, but is it possible that if you did a System Restore to a day prior to your player problems, it might self-correct?

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2014 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Mad, this may seem too dumb to ask, but is it possible that if you did a System Restore to a day prior to your player problems, it might self-correct?

It never hurts to try a restore. If it doesn't work, you can reverse it. However if files are corrupted, it won't restore those correctly.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 5:19 AM   
 By:   Ralph   (Member)

I have Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium with 2GB of RAM, 53 gigabytes of used space and 17 gigabytes of free space...

This line is warning about two things — not enough ram and a small harddrive that will slow to a crawl because of all your picture, audio and video files. MS admitted early on that 2G ram and a less than a 250 G hardrive for Win 7 are insufficient for anything but light usage. (Recommended ram for Win 7 Home Prem is 8G and higher, and a harddrive at 500G minimum. Older machines often won’t take more than 4G ram, which is the functional minimum.)

If your machine is more than 4 years old, or can not be successfully restored, replace it because the cost of aggravating repair/updating (new Win 7 OS, new internal harddrive, additional ram, adding external harddrive) will exceed the cost of a new computer. And there’s no guarantee the upgrading will work if your current computer has deeper hardware issues you don’t know about. And why chance pouring money into old technology anyway? If you stick with Windows, your dilemma is this: Win7 or Win 8.1 in a new/refurbished one? It costs extra these days to have Win 7 installed but it’s worth it.

I take it that you seldom or never used backup of your personal files? If you have a USB storage device, insert it and try to copy to it the files you have found but can’t access/hear. If the files can’t be copied, there’s a strong possibility they are beyond a simple repair. If they appear to be successfully copied — that is, no warning messages from the OS — use the USB device in another machine to test if they’re playable. That’s an inexpensive way to determine if your files are corrupted. Even cheaper is to send a copy of one of those files to your email address and then open in another computer. Obviously, if these files do play on another computer, immediately copy all your personal data to a USB device in order to prevent catastrophic loss.

As for System Restore, it’s a terrific fix IF you’re fairly sure of the date the computer went crazy and the older restore points precede that date. Everyday your machine eliminates the oldest restore point. For example: if you have been having this trouble for, let’s say, two weeks, and your restore points will not allow you to go back more than two weeks, you’re likely NOT going to have a clean restore.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

I have Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium with 2GB of RAM, 53 gigabytes of used space and 17 gigabytes of free space...

This line is warning about two things — not enough ram and a small harddrive that will slow to a crawl because of all your picture, audio and video files. MS admitted early on that 2G ram and a less than a 250 G hardrive for Win 7 are insufficient for anything but light usage. (Recommended ram for Win 7 Home Prem is 8G and higher, and a harddrive at 500G minimum. Older machines often won’t take more than 4G ram, which is the functional minimum.)

If your machine is more than 4 years old, or can not be successfully restored, replace it because the cost of aggravating repair/updating (new Win 7 OS, new internal harddrive, additional ram, adding external harddrive) will exceed the cost of a new computer. And there’s no guarantee the upgrading will work if your current computer has deeper hardware issues you don’t know about. And why chance pouring money into old technology anyway? If you stick with Windows, your dilemma is this: Win7 or Win 8.1 in a new/refurbished one? It costs extra these days to have Win 7 installed but it’s worth it.

I take it that you seldom or never used backup of your personal files? If you have a USB storage device, insert it and try to copy to it the files you have found but can’t access/hear. If the files can’t be copied, there’s a strong possibility they are beyond a simple repair. If they appear to be successfully copied — that is, no warning messages from the OS — use the USB device in another machine to test if they’re playable. That’s an inexpensive way to determine if your files are corrupted. Even cheaper is to send a copy of one of those files to your email address and then open in another computer. Obviously, if these files do play on another computer, immediately copy all your personal data to a USB device in order to prevent catastrophic loss.

As for System Restore, it’s a terrific fix IF you’re fairly sure of the date the computer went crazy and the older restore points precede that date. Everyday your machine eliminates the oldest restore point. For example: if you have been having this trouble for, let’s say, two weeks, and your restore points will not allow you to go back more than two weeks, you’re likely NOT going to have a clean restore.


Sound advice

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   madmovyman   (Member)

Again, some good advice. Thanks all.

Funny thing, my music reappeared this morning when I booted up. I immediately went to Best Buy and got a Seagate thing and am currently backing up everything.

I will transfer all music, video and images to my laptop for safe-keeping. I don't use that computer on the internet because I don't want it to get corrupted with malware and virus programs.

I've been transferring my lp soundtracks that have no cd release to mp3 on my computer, and thankfully I have not lost all the files that I've done so far. I should probably go ahead and make some cdr back-ups for those "lost" soundtracks.

I've been looking at "refurbished by manufacturer" computers, mainly Dell because I trust them, but they only seem to come with a maximum of 4GB Ram memory and I want to stay with Windows 7 because I don't want a "touchy" screen.

I'm selling a bunch of crap on eBay to try to finance an almost new computer, so if you want some Futurama comics, OUTIW lobby cards or a Terminator Robo-Girl poster, take a look...

http://www.ebay.com/sch/madmovyman/m.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1

There's a few cd soundtracks, but nothing of note.

I'm also currently working on listing some of my lp soundtracks including The Flame Trees of Thika, Giu' la Testa, Leadbelly, My Name is Nobody, The 7th Voyage of Sinbad and whatever else I can dump.

Oh, and I tried to restore, but my only restore point was 2 days ago... no help at all.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I haven't read everything here so maybe this was brought up. Isn't it usually a bad idea to upgrade a buggy system? It normally doesn't fix things. As a matter of fact the issue could be hardware oriented not software. (Failing drive, bad motherboard, etc) Best to reinstall the original OS and see if that fixes anything before trying an upgrade.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Again, some good advice. Thanks all.

Funny thing, my music reappeared this morning when I booted up. I immediately went to Best Buy and got a Seagate thing and am currently backing up everything.

I will transfer all music, video and images to my laptop for safe-keeping. I don't use that computer on the internet because I don't want it to get corrupted with malware and virus programs.

I've been transferring my lp soundtracks that have no cd release to mp3 on my computer, and thankfully I have not lost all the files that I've done so far. I should probably go ahead and make some cdr back-ups for those "lost" soundtracks.

I've been looking at "refurbished by manufacturer" computers, mainly Dell because I trust them, but they only seem to come with a maximum of 4GB Ram memory and I want to stay with Windows 7 because I don't want a "touchy" screen.

I'm selling a bunch of crap on eBay to try to finance an almost new computer, so if you want some Futurama comics, OUTIW lobby cards or a Terminator Robo-Girl poster, take a look...

http://www.ebay.com/sch/madmovyman/m.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1

There's a few cd soundtracks, but nothing of note.

I'm also currently working on listing some of my lp soundtracks including The Flame Trees of Thika, Giu' la Testa, Leadbelly, My Name is Nobody, The 7th Voyage of Sinbad and whatever else I can dump.

Oh, and I tried to restore, but my only restore point was 2 days ago... no help at all.


If you are in the market for a new computer, you may want to consider a laptop. You can pick one up with more ram and disk space than you will ever need. The processors they come with can handle anything. They are portable and easy to store. You can add your speakers to it and can hook it up to your flat screen with an HDMI cable. If you look around at a few places like Best Buy or PC Richards, you can probably get a great deal on last year's model. When you go in, ask them what they might have "out back". Mine is a 2012 model that I specifically wanted with Win7 and a 17 inch screen. It has everything the current models have except Win8. If you can avoid a refurbished model, do so. With the popularity of tablets, there are great deals on laptops around, especially around this time of year with graduations coming up. They are the number one gift for the college bound student (at least they were for mine). You just have to do some looking and some asking. Just wanted to suggest an alternative and wish you luck with your purchase.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2014 - 9:20 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

2 things-

-If your computer came with Win 7 installed, it probably has enough power to run win 8. If you are going to reinstall an operating system, I suggest Win 8, with Classic Shell installed to reinstate the Start Button (and boot past Metro).
Buy a new hard drive. Install the new operating system on the new drive and reinstall all of your programs. Use the old hard drive as an archive to pull data and settings files for your new system.

-If you can see files but cannot access them directly, try Active@ File Recovery. It can recover lost and/or deleted files. Programs like Recuva (good as it is) will only find deleted files. And it's less than $50.
I used Active@ to recover many gigs worth of newly ripped mp3s from a drive that dropped it's partition and file structure. The computer could see the data, but could not access any of it without a file structure. Active@ recovered it all.


-Finally, If you bought a computer with Win 7 installed, It should have come with a restore disk. That disk will build you a fresh new system right down to the bloat-ware that came pre-installed.
If you have the money, a new desktop can be built for $300 (MB & prosc, RAM, HD; case, and power supply if you need them). A new OS will be extra on top of that.

 
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