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 Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 6:23 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Like I said above, I like owning LPs and CDs.

But, I'm not a naysayer about how the world is changing either.

There is one additional advantage of streaming. Forgive me if somebody already said it.

But, just imagine if FSM or Intrada offered a streaming service where, for $10 a month or whatever it is, you have open access to stream anything in their catalogue.

You can end up paying LESS than you pay now and have access to MORE music than you could actually buy with that money.

Imagine that.

That could be the most compelling advantage of subscribing to streaming services.

And that's on top of not having the problem of storing and backing up.

The big downside is that if the streaming provider goes out of business, your access goes with it. However, if multiple streaming providers mirror each other's libraries, that would be mitigated.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

Well downloads didn't last long did they, at least CD's lasted 30 years before the gloom & doom set in. I'm of an age where I like owning stuff, CD's, DVD/Blu-ray's, books. I'm not going to stream or tweet or be on Facebook, I want life really simple, & with things changing every two minutes, I just want to get off the roundabout & enjoy what I have.

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

That said, I've been unplugging from the Internet lately and buying a lot more books. It became obvious a while back that the promise made to my generation (in the 1990s) ain't ever gonna come to pass. And I'm tired of the way things are becoming "less" (streaming, downloads, etc) because, I suppose, I find high value in tactile sensation. I prefer waking up next to a woman and not a computer monitor with pornography on it. Or something.

Unfortunately, while this whole physical/digital download/streaming discussion brings up heavy emotions in me, they're vague and not specific enough to know who to damn and who to praise. So let's just say I don't like the road we're on, so I'll just refuse to acknowledge and participate in our current culture. If that makes me an individual or a crank, time will tell.
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1. Quotations aren't going to stop the world changing. (I don't mean that to sound harsh.)

2. Complaining to the Film Score Monthly Forum isn't, I'm sure, what GBS had in mind when he talked about unreasonable people changing the world.

3. The people who are actually 'changing' the world (not those trying to keep it the same), i.e. those pushing the world to streaming probably are the people GBS had in mind.

So, here's the challenge. If folks want to change the direction of how things are going, what are you going to do besides complain?

I don't mean that to sound harsh, but to quote Jeff Bezos responding to bricks-and-mortar booksellers complaining about Amazon: "Complaining is not a strategy".


I find much to appreciate and admire in both your posts, so thank you LeHah and Woolston. However, I would add to Stephen's remark about complaining is that it is useful, especially when it opens the eyes of those otherwise in the dark about a given issue.

We now return you to "Format Wars", already in progress. wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)


You can end up paying LESS than you pay now and have access to MORE music than you could actually buy with that money. Imagine that.


And imagine when the record companies make specific licensing deals with specific mega corporations and you no longer have access to any of that music? It happened with the cable movie companies, and its happening with the streaming services. If your a Netflix user and you want to see HBO programming your screwed. Now you have to get on board Amazon Prime and pay for two separate services.

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

If your a Netflix user and you want to see HBO programming your screwed. Now you have to get on board Amazon Prime and pay for two separate services.

Technically you're not screwed - since Netflix never has streamed any HBO content, your Netflix membership is just as good as it ever was.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)



You can end up paying LESS than you pay now and have access to MORE music than you could actually buy with that money.


I don't quite get that. I have all the music I want (why wouldn't I). The classical & soundtrack discs I like that still haven't been released on CD are not available for downloading, or, I'd think, streaming.

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

I believe I have indeed listened to some streaming soundtracks that are no longer available as CDs (or at least at first-run prices). Though I don't have time to check that right now.

It has certainly been helpful for me to listen to streams for albums I had some interest in but didn't want to commit to purchasing - since given the amount of streaming I do the cost is less than a buck an album. And it's led me to purchase a number of albums after listening to the stream, which to me is a win for everybody.

But again, I'm a format omnivore and not an audiophile, so the bar to embrace all this is lower for me than collectors and audiophiles.

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

LOL! I have three thoughts:

1. Quotations aren't going to stop the world changing. (I don't mean that to sound harsh.)

2. Complaining to the Film Score Monthly Forum isn't, I'm sure, what GBS had in mind when he talked about unreasonable people changing the world.

3. The people who are actually 'changing' the world (not those trying to keep it the same), i.e. those pushing the world to streaming probably are the people GBS had in mind.

So, here's the challenge. If folks want to change the direction of how things are going, what are you going to do besides complain?

I don't mean that to sound harsh, but to quote Jeff Bezos responding to bricks-and-mortar booksellers complaining about Amazon: "Complaining is not a strategy".

Cheers


I actually agree with this entire post. However, there is an obvious flaw in its logic: you're *presuming* all I'm doing is posting on FSM about it. I know you're only playing Devil's Advocate here and not trying to create a serious discussion centered around your post (nor do I feel obliged to defensively list all the ways I prove that post wrong in my daily life) but suffice to say: I do more than post about the issue, it's just that, well, what I do is largely boring to talk about!

(I would go a step further and call my earlier quote of Shaw as more of a humorous aside and not a down-the-nose, over-the-glasses reply.)

 
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