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 Posted:   Aug 11, 2014 - 4:14 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

nice old school European score, although the volume level (mainly the first track) could be leveled better.
I'm reminded of Robert Nicolosi's Giant of Marathon, in the sense that there are 4-5 themes or riffs repeated alot, almost verbatim.
Misterkane, the CD tracks have the composer name as "Rosellini" - missing an 's.'

I really like the bonus demo cues. While the content is similar to the actual cues, the stripped-down simplicity changes the music entirely into something intimate and lounge-like; the last cue could easily be in "Hiroshima Mon Amour."
Makes me wonder if Hiroshima and other New Wave films had "demo" scores because they couldnt afford a full orchestra, rather than from aesthetic choice.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2015 - 6:12 AM   
 By:   misterkane   (Member)

Sorry for delay in answer. Unil today I haven't seen your comment.
You are right. It's my mistake that name of composser appears without one "r".
It was neccesary to make a second master and in this point the mistake appers.
Due to the urgency, the error occurred.
Regarding the volume of the tracks you know mastering is done so that the highest volume of the entire master does not saturate.
That makes some tracks remain at low volume. I increased the volume on these tracks. I have come to the possible limit for the analog noise did not damage the hearing of the CD. Your keep in mind this is a very old master.
The work of remastering and restoration has been complex and laborious.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2015 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I've worked with music stems and actual soundtracks, raising volume and fixing anomalies, and agree it is alot of work. I think it's mainly the first track that has low volume, but it's not a deal breaker that should prevent anyone from getting this CD which I still enjoy and play. I just checked Music Box, and am surprised it hasnt sold out.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2015 - 8:30 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

I just checked Music Box, and am surprised it hasnt sold out.

Why should this CD have sold out?
Just take a look for example at the Digitmovies CD catalogue and you will see there that their last title which has really sold out has been Morricone's GRAZIE ZIA from January 2013 - but nothing else since that time:
https://www.digitmovies.com/digitsoundtracks/de/products/

And it is not without any reason that for more than a year now even a label like GDM only does CD editions limited to 300 copies - not even 500 anymore.
That's the current state of affairs if we are not talking about some of the more famous Italian cult titles.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2015 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

you're right, they should have 498 copies left. wink
"Light at the edge of the world" and "Mysterious Island" sold out pretty fast (and I only bought LIGHT based on the sound samples), so it's not an unheard of phenomena.
I've never seen CLEOPATRA but it's supposedly a highly regarded film. I would assume the score had a fair number of fans based on having seen it, along with score-collectors of the genre, composer or esoterica. I bought it for the sound samples and the film's reputation.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2015 - 1:55 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Yes, of course you are right about LIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE WORLD and CAPTAIN NEMO. But I myself think there are various reasons why just these two CDs have sold out so quickly: One has to do with the high reputation the Quartet label has gained in the meantime above all among US collectors, and another one is that they have made an excellent marketing strategy with these two titles. Just as ZardozSpeaks already explained it here a few weeks ago:
"Quartet's marketing tactics seems to be working - that is, keep the titles in English (don't mention "Il Faro In Capo Al Mondo") and highlight Jules Verne instead of the composer's name.
This is a good thing, though. Has any other Piero Piccioni soundtrack (pre-order or otherwise) ever made it onto the weekly Top 10 best sellers?"
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?pageID=10&forumID=1&threadID=85825&archive=0

Just like him I also think that you would probably not have sold 500 copies so fast with just Piccioni's name and only the Italian title IL FARO IN CAPO AL MONDO on it as it was on the former GDM CD.

But with LEGIONI DI CLEOPATRA you don't really have this marketing possibility.
Of course, there may be some European cinéastes who still know about the movie and about the cult status of director Cottafavi, but among soundtrack collectors much less so which makes it therefore more difficult. And how many people are familiar with Renzo Rossellini nowadays?

The movie itself is quite nice and interesting, but avoid the English-dubbed version because the dialogues have in some cases been changed and are therefore much more ridiculous than in the original Italian version. And also a few scenes have been cut.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2015 - 6:41 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

well, perhaps I should have said "it should be sold out." wink
I know it's a niche market, but surely there are 498 people on the planet (including academic institutions) that would be happy to own this....But then "Terrore nello spazio" is still readily available from Digitmovies and that has the benefit of an almost mainstream movie thanks to ALIEN. It's an odd market.
Thanks for the caveat about the film releases; I'll look out for the original language version.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2015 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

"Light at the edge of the world" and "Mysterious Island" sold out pretty fast (and I only bought LIGHT based on the sound samples), so it's not an unheard of phenomena.


tsk...tsk...Last Child. After all the input and comments from members in the Piero Piccioni recommendation thread and you continue to rely upon (only!) sound samples instead of our collective good words!

What happened to all the blind buyers in the world?

May the curse of LYCANTHROPUS fall upon all the sound samplers among us. big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2015 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

tsk...tsk...Last Child. After all the input and comments from members in the Piero Piccioni recommendation thread and you continue to rely upon (only!) sound samples instead of our collective good words!

after blind-buying a few expensive, highly touted soundtracks which I didnt like, it's easy!

What happened to all the blind buyers in the world?

in our case I think it's "deaf buyers," and they wised up.

May the curse of LYCANTHROPUS fall upon all the sound samplers among us. big grin

actually I did buy that soundtrack shortly after it's release (you never know what might sell out), after playing some of the originally scored movie. It's okay.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 10:59 AM   
 By:   misterkane   (Member)

Thanks for all comments.
In Saimel we would like deplete all our releases too, but record market has changed a lot. Sales are now very down every day.
However, we are happy with sales of Renzo Rossellini's CD , a composer unjustly forgotten.
At the end of January we will have available a new Renzo Rossellini's CD, "Montecarlo" ("The Monte Carlo Story"). I think it will be a very pleasant surprise for all fans.
Maybe this new CD can do that fans interested in "Le Legioni di Cleopatra".
These CDs are the only two that have been published of this extraordinary Italian composer, who composed over 90 soundtracks.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

is "The Monte Carlo Story" score comical or comedy music?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   misterkane   (Member)

It's a comedy with Marlene Dietrich and Vittorio De Sica.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

yes, I've read that the movie is a comedy. I was asking if the music was comical. It could instead be romantic or dramatic music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   petruccio   (Member)

Oh Montecarlo . Yes, it was a comedy. I remember the movie and music. Very melodic. I didn't know it was Renzo Rossellini . I think it will be an interesting edition. Thanks for the information .

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

is "The Monte Carlo Story" score comical or comedy music?

No, it's mainly a really sparkling romantic and very melodic symphonic score with just a few comical interludes here and there. Therefore It's not that dissimilar in style to what someone like Alfred Newman or Victor Young would have written for such a picture during the mid-50s, although of course Rossellini also has his own typical stylistic traits. Anyway, his music for THE MONTE CARLO STORY is pure delight and I think that some Golden Age collectors may be surprised by this score. I hope that those here otherwise asking for US Golden Age scores from the 50s from the Kritzerland or Lalaland labels will at least lend their ears to the audio samples of this beautiful Rossellini score which will be available when the CD will be released in a few weeks.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I will of course play the sound samples, but I generally prefer grim, angst-filled music. We'll see in a few weeks.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2015 - 6:31 AM   
 By:   petruccio   (Member)

Thanks for the info . I'm certainly going to be an interesting issue.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2015 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

I actually like comedy scores and even prefer Golden Age scores with contemporary music like "Il Moralista" and "I Magliari". The description of "Monte Carlo" sounds very nice too, as was "Cleopatra".

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2015 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

I actually like comedy scores and even prefer Golden Age scores with contemporary music like "Il Moralista" and "I Magliari".

The MONTE CARLO STORY score is not at all jazzy in the way Savina's IL MORALISTA or Piccioni's I MAGLIARI are. There may be one or two tracks in the source music section at the end of the CD which go into that direction, but the actual orchestral score by Rossellini (about 40 minutes) is in an old-fashioned symphonic style. It has therefore much more similarity with something like Victor Young's THREE COINS IN THE FOUNTAIN or Alfred Newman's A CERTAIN SMILE. So it's not really a comedy score with contemporary jazzy/bluesy music, but much more a very romantic one with a lot of Mediterranean feeling typical of that era of the mid-50s.
In my opinion, it should therefore attract above all those collectors who like the Young or Newman scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2015 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

I actually like comedy scores and even prefer Golden Age scores with contemporary music like "Il Moralista" and "I Magliari".

The MONTE CARLO STORY score is not at all jazzy in the way Savina's IL MORALISTA or Piccioni's I MAGLIARI are. There may be one or two tracks in the source music section at the end of the CD which go into that direction, but the actual orchestral score by Rossellini (about 40 minutes) is in an old-fashioned symphonic style. It has therefore much more similarity with something like Victor Young's THREE COINS IN THE FOUNTAIN or Alfred Newman's A CERTAIN SMILE. So it's not really a comedy score with contemporary jazzy/bluesy music, but much more a very romantic one with a lot of Mediterranean feeling typical of that era of the mid-50s.
In my opinion, it should therefore attract above all those collectors who like the Young or Newman scores.


Thanks. My comment was in support of more jazzy scores because some people have complained of the recent Digitmovies releases, although I like almost equally these different styles. Of course the bottom line is the quality of the music, for instance "Cleopatra" is a top Peplum for me, which is not always the case. I guess the only scores I can't get into are the Synth Hollywood scores from the 80s, which seem to dominate very much this forum.

 
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