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 Posted:   Jun 17, 2014 - 11:51 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

TONY GWYNN well known SAN DIEGO PADRES player of the 80's and 90's has died of cancer probably do to a lifetime of chewing tobacco. How do you feel about it, Should they crack down on it or leave it as a choice for the major league players to use? He was only 54.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 12:25 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I think they should crack down on excessive use. Tony Gwynn was clearly in the excessive category from all reports that he used a tin and a half a day. That is a LOT of tobacco. I think casual use should be up to the individual player but excessive use should be somehow reduced.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 1:22 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

If you want to smoke, drink, chew yourself to death that's your privilege. (with the caveat your habit doesn't hurt others.) Next there will be a limit on soda, burgers and pizza. Enough with treating adults like kids.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2014 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Warn people of the dangers then leave them to it.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

As long as they are only harming themselves, it's their business. But cigarettes are an entirely different matter -- and I lost a brother at 54 and a sister at 58, both from cigarettes, and neither of them lived to see some of their grandchildren. I've always had a no-smoking policy in my home, which, in the 1970s, used to irk one of my brothers-in-law -- but as soon as his doctor insisted that he stop smoking, he no longer thought of me as a "jerk" (his word). But the tales I could tell of having no choice but to work side-by-side with smokers. Well, one: This secretary smoked non-stop and I had to set up a tiny fan to at least try to blow a little of the smoke back towards her. She constantly left cigarettes burning in her ashtray when she went to the ladies room. One day I could take it no longer, and went over and snubbed it out. She returned, carrying another lit cigarette, and hit the roof when she saw that the first cigarette was no longer burning. She flew into a rage and tried hard to get me fired ... for touching her property! Glad that common sense has replaced such insanity (in most work environments) in this country.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Your comment about as long as they are only harming themselves, it is there business. That statement remind me of the story about a guy who was giving a death sentence for the crime of trying to commit suicide[ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha] from what I heard that was a true story and one of the funniest stories I ever heard.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 7:33 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

That statement remind me of the story about a guy who was giving a death sentence for the crime of trying to commit suicide[ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha] from what I heard that was a true story and one of the funniest stories I ever heard.

I must have missed the funny part of this?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

No insult but if you can't see the humor in a scenario where if you try to kill yourself you are sentenced to be kill, then I have nothing to say here.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 7:44 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

No insult but if you can't see the humor in a scenario where if you try to kill yourself you are sentenced to be kill, then I have nothing to say here.

No....please....do tell....how is it funny?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 7:51 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Well if this scenario has not been already done on some dark comedy then maybe I should do it..-----and for some reason this reminds me of the hilarious scene from a 3 musketeer film where I believe CHRISTOPHER LEE is going to be shot by a firing squad and they are so inept at carrying it out, so he comments with a line like, why bother I will die from natural causes faster[ha-ha-ha-ha] yes even in death or near death there is humor, thank GOD for humor.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 7:56 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Is....this.....something to do with those crazy hippos again? Or are you just being a complete cock? Help me out a bit here....

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 8:16 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Well if they have such a problem with him trying to kill himself why punish him by killing him. Seems certainly ironic if nothing else. Either you want to let a person kill himself or you don't. We seem to have no problem with people killing themselves with alcohol or drugs but when it comes to intentional acts that result in your own death then people are freaked out. It is hard to notice the difference.

Though with sports stars there is a certain level of responsibility that should keep someone from taking excessive levels of this trash. After all the young children are watching them throughout their careers. Then the kids get an idea that chewing tobacco is OK.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 9:14 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

TO MR GREG- IS SOMETHING BOTHERING YOU ?Just because you don't see the humor in it does not mean somebody is wrong or stupid or evil to make remarks against them. you know, a civilized person might not like the three stooges or SEINFIELD, but you don't start calling then a c---. I don't know about some people here.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2014 - 10:44 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

I think there's more irony there than real humor. How ironic that a man who tried unsuccessfully to kill himself would be killed by the state for his "crime."

But is this an urban legend? Because I doubt that it would be a capital offense to TRY to kill yourself. And I think that most would agree that for the punishment to fit the "crime," they should, instead, keep him in jail for a long time.

As many problems as I have had with dan, I think some of you are going out of your way to give him a hard time with this. Whether we call it "funny" (odd, not humorous) or "ironic," I side with him: it's both.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2014 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Ok, I guess another thing one can't do on this board with some members is satire with irony.

 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2014 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Sorry for continuing the topic but I believe it is illegal to attempt suicide. If you survive there are punishments for the attempt, but I don't believe death is one of them!

 
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