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 Posted:   Jul 5, 2014 - 4:14 PM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

Very WWII Hollywood.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2014 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Horrid music and horrible lyrics, no matter how it's arranged.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2014 - 9:05 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Horrid music and horrible lyrics, no matter how it's arranged.

What if they added "Deep Deep ...Down" at the end of each stanza?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2014 - 9:36 PM   
 By:   Smitty   (Member)

With the pomposity of that performance, I now await Williams' arrangement of "America, F*ck Yeah!"

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 4:02 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I don't think it was as stirring or as beautiful as the other version I have by him, wherein he
turns it into the 'Olympian Patriot'. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

With the pomposity of that performance, I now await Williams' arrangement of "America, F*ck Yeah!"

Ha!

 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

I thought it was very elegant with some interesting modern harmonies. A great melody with great words by FS Key. It may be a "difficult" song as an anthem. But isn't that how it should be? We should have to work at that song as hard as we have to work at freedom and democracy. And the Battle of Fort McHenry was no picnic!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

A great melody with great words by FS Key.

I would say it has a terrible melody and terrible lyrics.

I guess that's what makes horse racing.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   CitizenJoe   (Member)

A great melody with great words by FS Key.

I would say it has a terrible melody and terrible lyrics.

I guess that's what makes horse racing.


Well you know what? Maybe we'd hate you right back if you took any pride in your own country.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


Well you know what? Maybe we'd hate you right back if you took any pride in your own country.


What does "pride in your own country" have to do with objectively assessing music and lyrics?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)


Well you know what? Maybe we'd hate you right back if you took any pride in your own country.


What does "pride in your own country" have to do with objectively assessing music and lyrics?


"Objectively" is....subjective.

But as I can see by your profile, we can all agree (objectively) on the musical and lyrical brilliance of Morricone's DANGER: DIABOLIK!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 11:03 AM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)

If Dennis McCarthy wrote a version, it would probably be called Patriotosity.

And lord help us if Hans Zimmer ever writes one.... it'll be be a dark and brooding arrangement with synth cellos and percussion throughout.

 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

Hmmm...I don't think the large chorus does this song any favors. The live mix was OK, bit not very punchy.

The ending was good, the way it kept climbing, but the last note undercut all of that.
I know few singers have the range for it, but the last note of this arrangement should have been octaves higher.

I think the high-wire act of trying to get to the last notes is part of what makes this song so thrilling. I don't see how it was a drinking song, it's hard enough to sing sober.


My favorite version is the Whitney Houston version- I don't care if it comped in the studio or whatever, she at least gives the impression of having the range to sing the whole song full out.

 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

I greatly enjoyed the new harmonies and other elements Williams put in. His arrangement is fantastic. I can try and sum up all my feelings below:





Heck yeah, America!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


Well you know what? Maybe we'd hate you right back if you took any pride in your own country.


Are you serious?
No, it's not a very good song to be used as a national anthem. If they had been smart they would have used America the Beautiful which is in every way a better choice, beter song, better lyrics, and more representative of the actual country.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I thought it sounded GREAT!

 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I thought it sounded GREAT!

It did indeed, Joan. And the maestro nailed it with his introduction. Nice to see him on top form.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 8:33 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

I thought the Williams job was well done. Truly, it's hard to impress a new musical imprint upon this piece. It's hard to restructure or reharmonize it. I think Williams' approach of interjecting new material in the beginning and about 2/3 of the way through was a great decision. I also liked the new minor changes in the chorus near the end.

For the hell of it, here's the version orchestrated and conducted by Toscanini, which has always been my absolute favorite version. You will hear that even he did not do much as far as concocting a new version; he decided instead to bring out what he could from the original. The national anthem starts at
9:00.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECc4INndxvw

 
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