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 Posted:   Jul 5, 2014 - 7:57 PM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Since it's 4th of July weekend, thought I'd ask this. Is there any chance the motion picture soundtrack version will ever be released? Many seem to prefer this version?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2014 - 8:02 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I enjoyed both the stage soundtrack and the film soundtrack, but in some ways I do prefer the music from the movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Most people prefer movie. Mind boggling not released

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   TerryLee   (Member)

I, too, prefer the movie version of the soundtrack if for no other reason than it features Howard Da Silva, the actor who originated the part of Benjamin Franklin. If memory serves, Da Silva was ill when the Original Broadway Cast album was recorded and Rex Everhart portrayed Franklin. Not the same.

On the other hand, I think OC member Betty Buckley, as Martha Jefferson, is a much better singer than the actress who played the role in the movie version, Blythe Danner.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   TerryLee   (Member)

I, too, prefer the movie version of the soundtrack if for no other reason than it features Howard Da Silva, the actor who originated the part of Benjamin Franklin. If memory serves, Da Silva was ill when the Original Broadway Cast album was recorded and Rex Everhart portrayed Franklin. Not the same.

On the other hand, I think OC member Betty Buckley, as Martha Jefferson, is a much better singer than the actress who played the role in the movie version, Blythe Danner.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   TerryLee   (Member)

Sorry for the double post. I'll blame it on the World Wide Interweb.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Also, Scott Jarvis, the original Messenger on Broadway, was infinitely better than the wimp they cast in the movie, with his big hair. Jarvis really commanded the stage during his big moment.

Likewise, Clifford David, the original Rutledge on Broadway, was intense to the point of mesmerizing, while John Cullum, who replaced him onstage, and also did the movie role, was good, but just not remotely the same kind of fanatic. David was amazing.

I once spoke with the director, since I once knew his ex-wife, and asked why he didn't cast Scott Jarvis in the movie, and he actually could not remember why he did that, or so he said.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   cinemel1   (Member)

Unfortunately, Cool, Cool, Considerate Men, was not on Soundtrack album because it was originally cut from theatrical version from film. Song is on current DVD and laser disc version. It should be included if film soundtrack is ever released.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   TerryLee   (Member)

Also, Scott Jarvis, the original Messenger on Broadway, was infinitely better than the wimp they cast in the movie, with his big hair. Jarvis really commanded the stage during his big moment.

Likewise, Clifford David, the original Rutledge on Broadway, was intense to the point of mesmerizing, while John Cullum, who replaced him onstage, and also did the movie role, was good, but just not remotely the same kind of fanatic. David was amazing.

I once spoke with the director, since I once knew his ex-wife, and asked why he didn't cast Scott Jarvis in the movie, and he actually could not remember why he did that, or so he said.


Good points. I was fortunate to see most of the original cast on Broadway, with the exception of Ken Howard. Thanks for helping me brush off the mental cobwebs!

FYI, years ago one of my close friends was in a production of the show with Patrick Hines, an original cast member. Hines told my friend that originally the show ran more than four hours. It was trimmed during pre-Broadway performances.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

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 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Also, Scott Jarvis, the original Messenger on Broadway, was infinitely better than the wimp they cast in the movie, with his big hair. Jarvis really commanded the stage during his big moment.

Likewise, Clifford David, the original Rutledge on Broadway, was intense to the point of mesmerizing, while John Cullum, who replaced him onstage, and also did the movie role, was good, but just not remotely the same kind of fanatic. David was amazing.

I once spoke with the director, since I once knew his ex-wife, and asked why he didn't cast Scott Jarvis in the movie, and he actually could not remember why he did that, or so he said.


heh heh hey John, you really want to reignite wars past in the 1776 Redux thread, don'tcha!smile But I too much prefer the Jarvis version and when I hear the other, I'm left wondering who sang the "I'll close your ears, my Billy" chorus and in what register. Always assumed McNair (Duell) sang the lower on stage, or was it Jarvis? The chorus in the film just ain't the same.

I, too, prefer the movie version of the soundtrack if for no other reason than it features Howard Da Silva, the actor who originated the part of Benjamin Franklin. If memory serves, Da Silva was ill when the Original Broadway Cast album was recorded and Rex Everhart portrayed Franklin. Not the same.

On the other hand, I think OC member Betty Buckley, as Martha Jefferson, is a much better singer than the actress who played the role in the movie version, Blythe Danner.


Hey Terry, you REALLY will ignite a past war with that last one! But I must concur with your DaSilva vs. Everhart assessment, although the latter's "Oh that word!" is a slight favorite in my ear. Btw, caught Everhart in a Car 54 Where Are You? ep recently and it was impossible not to think of his Franklin. But the thing I most remember about Everhart is a commercial he did for Snickers bar (?). He played a vendor hawking peanuts in a crowd of spectators.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   TerryLee   (Member)



On the other hand, I think OC member Betty Buckley, as Martha Jefferson, is a much better singer than the actress who played the role in the movie version, Blythe Danner.


Hey Terry, you REALLY will ignite a past war with that last one!

Yikes, I hope not. I know how those things go here on the Message Board. For the record, I didn't say I liked Betty Buckley better than Blythe Danner (I always thought she was hot), just that she was a better singer. Do you think that might prevent the carnage?

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

heh heh hey John, you really want to reignite wars past in the 1776 Redux thread, don'tcha!smile But I too much prefer the Jarvis version and when I hear the other, I'm left wondering who sang the "I'll close your ears, my Billy" chorus and in what register. Always assumed McNair (Duell) sang the lower on stage, or was it Jarvis? The chorus in the film just ain't the same.

The stage directions always call for McNair and the Leather Apron character to do the chorus together on that part with the Courier. I just assumed both of them were on the cast CD and the film soundtrack too, though the different key for the song in general in the film made the chorus sound very poor compared to the cast version.

The only other time I've seen a production give McNair and the Leather Apron some extra signing was in a Paper Mill production five years ago when they had them in the background tidying up during "But, Mr. Adams" and they got to lean over and join in on the line, "He's obnoxious and disliked, did you know that?"

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 8:24 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)



On the other hand, I think OC member Betty Buckley, as Martha Jefferson, is a much better singer than the actress who played the role in the movie version, Blythe Danner.


Hey Terry, you REALLY will ignite a past war with that last one!

Yikes, I hope not. I know how those things go here the Message Board. For the record, I didn't say I liked Betty Buckley better than Blythe Danner (I always thought she was hot), just that she was a better singer. Do you think that might prevent the carnage?


Oh yes, we all pretty much rued the absence of Ms. Buckley. She really could belt it out.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2014 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   Panavision70   (Member)

The Masterworks Broadway site is the place to make your request known for the "1776" movie soundtrack. I'm sure they have it in the vaults. Last year they released the soundtrack to Elizabeth Taylor "A Little Night Music."

http://www.masterworksbroadway.com/home

And this is very interesting.

http://theseconddisc.com/2011/07/04/july-4-special-reissue-theory-1776-original-motion-picture-soundtrack/

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 8, 2014 - 12:16 PM   
 By:   TerryLee   (Member)

The Masterworks Broadway site is the place to make your request known for the "1776" movie soundtrack. I'm sure they have it in the vaults. Last year they released the soundtrack to Elizabeth Taylor "A Little Night Music."

http://www.masterworksbroadway.com/home

And this is very interesting.

http://theseconddisc.com/2011/07/04/july-4-special-reissue-theory-1776-original-motion-picture-soundtrack/


Great article and video. Seth Rudetsky is a hoot! Thanks for sharing.

 
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