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 Posted:   Jul 10, 2014 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

There were several threads about this, but they were all about various versions and other collector-oriented aspects. I just wanted one on the music itself.

I'm late to the party, but I just listened to this for the first time. It's been on my list for a long time, since I love Newman's approach to religious material, especially through scores such as THE SONG OF BERNADETTE and THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD. Well, this certainly doesn't hold anything back compared to those. OK, so there might not be the overt religious harmonies, but it's still a smokin' good album. Choral forces, epic action music, aching strings, you name it.

Nice discovery!

Oh, and if it's important -- I was listening to this version on Spotify:

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2014 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

That's the re-recording, Thor.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2014 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

This one:

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2014 - 4:26 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

The main theme is one of the most emotional, eloquent ,melodic themes to ever be heard.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2014 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Gorgeous score.

I had this on lp, then CD. Technically, it's a re-recording, though it includes the voice of Christ, intoning, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do," though not the same actor saying it as on the actual film track, as I recall.

I also love the later Varese 2-CD complete tracks release, which is even more wonderful, as it includes so much more music, such as the transition to Jerusalem, complete with the original Ken Darby chorus recordings, as well as many other cues unheard on the lp recording.

One of my all-time Top Ten Favorite Film Scores.

A must for any collector!

(I'm just a Newman-iac...)

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2014 - 8:07 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Get the restored La-La Land Edition. There is no finer version of the score.

An absolute bargain for $15.95 and, unlike the original mono Decca LP, in fabulous stereo:

http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/17583/THE-ROBE-2-CD-2000-EDITION/

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2014 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....Technically, it's a re-recording, though it includes the voice of Christ, intoning, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do," though not the same actor saying it as on the actual film track, as I recall.....


It's always been my opinion that the actor in question, on film and LP, is Cameron Mitchell---being very dramatic.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2014 - 9:54 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

This one:



I still pull that one out, too!cool

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 12:27 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Manderley,

For whatever it may be worth, at first I thought it might be Royal Dano speaking Christ's last words, but then, I seem to recall reading somewhere a long time ago that it was indeed Cameron Mitchell. And even if I hadn't read it: what the hell, when have you ever been wrong?

PNJ

PS: Answer your e-mail!

smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 1:45 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....For whatever it may be worth, at first I thought it might be Royal Dano speaking Christ's last words, but then, I seem to recall reading somewhere a long time ago that it was indeed Cameron Mitchell......

Preston....

Of course it might have been Fox's contract player Jeffrey Hunter rehearsing for his later appearance with Nicholas Ray..... smile


PS.....Where have YOU been? smile

I answered your eMail Wednesday (July 9) at 1:11 AM!! Yawn!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

The Decca rerecording lifted two things from the actual film, Cameron Mitchell s voice and the song of the resurection is the actual soundtrack.
What an awesome score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

The Decca rerecording lifted two things from the actual film, Cameron Mitchell s voice and the song of the resurection is the actual soundtrack.
What an awesome score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 5:11 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Anyone have any favourite tracks?

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 6:26 AM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Anyone have any favourite tracks?

Without hesitation, "The Crucifixion." Seven minutes of absolutely sublime music, a cosmic lament for the death of Christ consisting of five fugally constructed choral statements of the chaconne theme first heard in the Prelude, structurally building up to a shattering climax (preceded by a sudden serene pause, a dramatic musical suspension, in which Christ speaks from the cross). The mono Decca LP doesn't do it full justice.

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

For me my favorite parts of the score are anything with the sublime love theme. I love the other stuff too of course, but as with Rozsa's El Cid the love theme is the best part for me. Newman was probably second only to Rozsa in writing great ones...

I wish the album re-recording had been remastered and included on LLL's otherwise superlative set so that it could have been truly definitive...but I feel the same way about their beautiful Stagecoach release (never understood the dumping on the LP recording for that, sorry Lukas) as well as Intrada's Masada (the Varese CD issue of the LP recording for this had mastering problems so this was a real missed opportunity).

Did The Egyptian similiarly have a different recording for the original album? If LLL or Intrada should happen to do a new release of that score I hope it's included if so.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 8:30 AM   
 By:   orbital   (Member)

If LLL or Intrada should happen to do a new release of that score I hope it's included if so.

I dearly hope LLL or Intrada will re-release Varese's THE EGYPTIAN 2-disc set. frown

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

For me my favorite parts of the score are anything with the sublime love theme.

The classic statement of the love theme would be in disc 1, track 6, "The Map of Jerusalem." Another haunting favourite theme is that for Michael Rennie's portrayal of Peter ("The Big Fisherman" on the Decca LP) which appears on disc 2, track 3, "The Death of Justus."

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   shureman   (Member)

My favorite track is SEARCHING FOR JESUS which is damaged on both releases. However I understand it was repaired for the isolated blu-ray track. Can we not get a fully-restored CD release with this problem repaired?

 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yeah, I never understood why the LLL release didn't have the repaired version of that track if the Blu-ray iso score did...

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Without hesitation, "The Crucifixion." Seven minutes of absolutely sublime music, a cosmic lament for the death of Christ consisting of five fugally constructed choral statements of the chaconne theme first heard in the Prelude, structurally building up to a shattering climax (preceded by a sudden serene pause, a dramatic musical suspension, in which Christ speaks from the cross). The mono Decca LP doesn't do it full justice.

Much as I agree with every word here, and notwithstanding the superior stereophonic sound and larger instrumental forces of the two later albums, I imagine that Thor will be happiest with the original album version that he has now discovered. I partly agree, since the longer versions do contain some dead wood that needs to be pruned away.

 
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