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 Posted:   Sep 13, 2018 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

It's certainly not a very critically acclaimed movie. I think it's respected more for its technical accomplishments than anything else.

Well to me it's kind of schlocky (and I'm a Christian). Burton's acting when the robe is thrown on him is in hindsight kind of comical (apparently Burton and Shrimpton were both extremely facetious during the filming, and to me that was obvious even before I found that out). Not quite as goofy as Newman in Silver Chalice, but probably even more cynically performed.


I think Ben Hur really trumped that movie, though score wise they're both so high in quality. I do like the Robe better than Greatest Story, King of Kings, and certainly the aforementioned Chalice.


I hope there are still copies of the LLL hanging around some stores for those who didn't pick it up. This is one of my favourite scores of all time, and the La-La set is simply gorgeous. It's so spine-tinglingly awesome - as in it creates a real sense of awe - that it's almost frightening. "The Crucifixion" is gruelling and totally compelling, in fact I always manage to get through the 2 CDs no problem. I actually WANT to keep hearing it to the end each time. A lot of soundtracks wear out their welcome within a few tracks, but this just transfixes me throughout. And I always come out of it feeling like I'm a better person, temporarily at least.

It's a truly astonishing masterpiece.


I'm still on the fence about the La La Land (which might seem weird, given Alfred is my favorite film composer). I have and very much love the Varese, as well as the first CD release.

So, the Varese is Alfred's rerecording, right? The LLL isn't? Forgive my ignorance.

I have a chance to get the LLL for a not so bummer price, which is why I'm asking.


Who on Earth is Shrimpton? I don't recall anyone in the movie going by that name (the closest to that name I can find is leading lady Jean Simmons). As for the LLL release, while I don't have the Varese release, I'm pretty sure the edition Varese released back in 2003 was the original recording (though Varese did put out Newman's re-recording quite a few years prior), though the LLL has improved sound quality and a little bit more music.


EWWWPS, wrong actress sorry! I have the 2 disc Varese, great one imo. Thanks so much for the info on the LLL, but I'm still on the fence on this one.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2018 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Tack, if you have to ask "Who on Earth is Shrimpton?", then I'm afraid your knowledge of English supermodels of the '60s is sorely lacking.

WA, so you have the 2003 Varese release? As Tack says, the content is virtually the same as the LLL (which is the only one I have). Unless there's a clearly marked sound difference (these things are usually in the ear of the beholder - if ears can behold) I wouldn't do what would be more or less a double dip. That's my personal opinion, but feel free to search for more concrete comments on the perceived sonic differences.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2018 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)





Here's the LaLa track listing, if you want to compare it with any other releases.

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2018 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Tack, if you have to ask "Who on Earth is Shrimpton?", then I'm afraid your knowledge of English supermodels of the '60s is sorely lacking.

WA, so you have the 2003 Varese release? As Tack says, the content is virtually the same as the LLL (which is the only one I have). Unless there's a clearly marked sound difference (these things are usually in the ear of the beholder - if ears can behold) I wouldn't do what would be more or less a double dip. That's my personal opinion, but feel free to search for more concrete comments on the perceived sonic differences.


Hi Graham and THANKS! Yes I do have the 2003, and judging from the tracklisting I can't see why I'd double dip on this. I almost did the same with David and Bathsheba (for what it's worth, the Kritzerland was so good I couldn't see any reason to grab another reissue, as great as that score indubitably is).

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2018 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Don't forget there's always www.soundtrackcollector.com for checking differencies in content between whatever releases.

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2018 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Don't forget there's always www.soundtrackcollector.com for checking differencies in content between whatever releases.

Shame on me for forgetting.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2018 - 7:57 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

WAGNER ALMIGHTY: Get the La-La-Land 2-CD set. The sound is noticeably clearer than than the Varese set, and you get more bonus tracks.

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2018 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

WAGNER ALMIGHTY: Get the La-La-Land 2-CD set. The sound is noticeably clearer than than the Varese set, and you get more bonus tracks.

Argh Jim, you got me! I was just about to completely dismiss the thought. I've read some staggeringly good words concerning "Crucifixion" from the LLL set (which is already such an amazing cue).
'
(Dr. McCoy voice): Dammit, Jim, you made my wallet angry!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2018 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

WAGNER ALMIGHTY: Get the La-La-Land 2-CD set. The sound is noticeably clearer than than the Varese set, and you get more bonus tracks.

Argh Jim, you got me! I was just about to completely dismiss the thought. I've read some staggeringly good words concerning "Crucifixion" from the LLL set (which is already such an amazing cue).
'
(Dr. McCoy voice): Dammit, Jim, you made my wallet angry!


Trust me, you and your wallet will not be sorry.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2018 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Well to me it's kind of schlocky (and I'm a Christian). Burton's acting when the robe is thrown on him is in hindsight kind of comical (apparently Burton and Shrimpton were both extremely facetious during the filming, and to me that was obvious even before I found that out). Not quite as goofy as Newman in Silver Chalice, but probably even more cynically performed.

During filming Richard Burton was having an affair with both Jean Simmons & Dawn Addams (who I think played his sister), he had affairs with a lot of his leading ladies.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2018 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Little Boots   (Member)

Dawn Addams plays Junia, one of Marcellus' old paramours -- and vocally bitter about it -- whom he encounters just prior to the slave auction.

Marcellus' sister, Lucia, was played by Pamela Robinson.

 
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