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 Posted:   Jul 11, 2014 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Michael McMahon got the joke -- but I didn't.

What does "comb-over era" mean?

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As to SURROUND, I don't know your personal tastes, but speaking for myself I've always loved this album -- it's one of the first CD's I ever bought -- and for me the group of selections from Mancini's Universal sci-fi/monster days was worth the price of admission. It was a happily surprising rarity in those days, and the only one of its kind until the glorious advent of Monstrous Movie Music.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2014 - 5:29 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Preston, that was just a little joke about Onya's profile, in which he lists amongst his favourite composers "Mancini pre-combover." I imagine he's referring to when Mancini started sporting the Bobby Charlton look - three strands of hair combed right over a bald dome from one ear to the other. There are other little in-jokes in my post which are harmless jibes at Onya based on some comments he has made recently on various threads.

Anyway, I think that the CD is great!

 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2014 - 5:31 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

The music from White Dawn is a knockout.

This.

Love the rest of the album to -- and I don't like compilations that much.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2014 - 6:15 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Thanks, Graham. I have nothing against in-jokes, as perhaps you know if you've been reading the DIE, SISTER, DIE thread, but obviously I often need to have them explained to me -- if I can detect at all that they are jokes, which obviously I couldn't with all those other jokes.

smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 12, 2014 - 9:33 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Actually, there are a couple of great Mancini albums from the combover period. Symphonic Soul is permanently filed in my DJ crate.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 14, 2014 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

This arrived today. Here are my impressions after one spin.

I liked:

Mommie Dearest
Frenzy
The Creature
It Came from Outer Space
Tarantula
Fear
The Man Who Loved Women
Nighwing
Super Sleuth
Most of Sunset

I did not like:

Opening fanfare
The White Dawn
The Prisoner of Zenda
Without a Clue End Title
The Cowboys (from Sunset).

So, overall, a very worthwhile purchase, especially at these prices, given that I have only a couple of these tracks.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2014 - 1:56 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)


I did not like:

Opening fanfare
The White Dawn
The Prisoner of Zenda
Without a Clue End Title
The Cowboys (from Sunset).




Why not?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2014 - 2:06 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)


I did not like:

Opening fanfare
The White Dawn
The Prisoner of Zenda
Without a Clue End Title
The Cowboys (from Sunset).




Why not?


I was thinking the same thing since those are IMHO some of the best tracks on a outstanding CD.

To each his or her own...

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2014 - 5:51 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


Why not?


Stylistically, they do not appeal to my musical tastes. This is after only one listen. I will spin again and respond more substantively.

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2014 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   AMRA75   (Member)

IMO, I think all the tracks from Mancini in surround are good. I may prefer the Kunzel version of White dawn.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2014 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

By the way, I just thought I'd mention that there was a limited edition "spin-off" version of this CD. It was called MANCINI"S MONSTER HITS, and contained only the CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON, IT CAME FROM OUTER SPACE, and NIGHTWING cuts, plus the SURROUND FANTASTIQUE.
The disc itself had artwork of a skull that glows in the dark. RCA Victor 60577-2-RV.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2014 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


I did not like:

Opening fanfare
The White Dawn
The Prisoner of Zenda
Without a Clue End Title
The Cowboys (from Sunset).




Why not?


Stylistically, I come from jazz and 20th Century music, which by default means that I tend to like dense harmonies and rich orchestration.

The tracks that I cite on the CD have very simple triad-based harmonies. I do not have anything against simple harmonies per se. In film music, I think they can be very effective in quiet cues that convey sadness, poignance, etc. But when I hear full-blown orchestral fury playing vanilla triads, it just sounds wrong to me. It sounds anachronistic and, in places, like self-conscious attempts at grandiose "film music."

The White Dawn track, in addition to the reasons that I cite above, also has an annoying melodic motif that sounds like an Irish jig.

Now, I realize that The Prisoner of Zenda - which I've never seen - seems to be going for a deliberately old-fashioned sound, coming off in parts as very 18th-century. These tracks bother me less than the others I mentioned.

I realize that Mancini was collecting a paycheck and delivering what was expected of him. While music like this may work in the context of the film, it doesn't mean I want to listen to it at home.

But having said all this, I will confess that I enjoyed these tracks more on a second and third spin. Maybe I'm losing a grip on my convictions, or maybe I'm getting to be a sentimental fool in middle age. Whichever, Mancini is and will always be one of my musical heroes, up there with Legrand, Jobim, Monk, Stravinsky, Charlie Parker, Ellington, Morricone, Lalo Schifrin, Raymond Scott, and The Great Les Baxter.

We miss you Hank.

 
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