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 Posted:   Jul 16, 2014 - 6:43 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

My Lord, CLEOPATRA and HOW THE WEST WAS WON lost? . . . Also, freeze it at 3:01 and that definitely looks like the Alfred Newman haircut to the right of where Andre's walking. All the composers sitting together.

If so, then surely it's Ken Darby to Newman's right. And would that be Dory Previn with her then husband?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2014 - 7:27 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

My Lord, CLEOPATRA and HOW THE WEST WAS WON lost? . . . Also, freeze it at 3:01 and that definitely looks like the Alfred Newman haircut to the right of where Andre's walking. All the composers sitting together.

If so, then surely it's Ken Darby to Newman's right. And would that be Dory Previn with her then husband?


I believe it is!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2014 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

My Lord, CLEOPATRA and HOW THE WEST WAS WON lost? . . . Also, freeze it at 3:01 and that definitely looks like the Alfred Newman haircut to the right of where Andre's walking. All the composers sitting together.

If so, then surely it's Ken Darby to Newman's right. And would that be Dory Previn with her then husband?



I don't mean to sound dense, but the only composer I can spot is Alex North in the row behind them. I think I spot Newman, but is Ken Darby the man with white hair and glasses or the man with dark hair and glasses, or neither one?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2014 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

At 2:08 you can see the entire front row, with John Green conducting the orchestra. He seems to be the one who clues in the hapless Davis.

At 2:59 is that "Alec" North at top center?

At 3:00 I believe it's Darby leaning forward by Previn's shoulder and Newman at top right.



 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2014 - 11:34 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

How nice to get a glimpse of the talented Ivan Goff.

And how refreshing for Mr. Webb in this august public forum to acknowledge the inner workings of Hollywood mega-productions by naming the uncredited John Gay and thanking him for his contribution. How often has THAT happened, at the Oscars or at any other event in Hollywood?

I wonder if Lemmon's rescue of Robinson was pre-planned or spontaneous. Either way it was a lovely little bit of business from these two consummate pros. (And a poignant reminder that amazingly the Academy in its wisdom never managed to nominate this "one of the great all-time stars of the cinema" for a single one of his performances.)

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2014 - 6:09 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Sammy Davis played it well though. But the real oops moment was "Alec North" not winning for Cleopatra, likewise Alex North. wink

However, to give it its due, Addison's innovative score was quite epoch making - it seemed to usher in the trend for using harpsichords (later the electric harpsichord) in film music that persisted throughout the 60s and into the 70s. Ironically, North used a harpsichord in Cleopatra too, but subtly within the orchestral textures. Addison put his up front and loud.

Subtly never gets you the big prize in showbiz. big grin

BTW, nice to see Elmer looking cool and young!



If you look behind Andre Previn as he rises from his seat, you can see Alex North seated behind him. It must have been a dreadful feeling to have to sit there and realize the outcome even before the announcement.


And Previn was the same guy who composed an opera based on "A Streetcar Named Desire"!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2014 - 7:57 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Amazing to think that Previn was a film industry veteran back then and is still active today.

 
 Posted:   Jul 19, 2014 - 11:17 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Whatever happened to Maurice Jarrard?

Changed his gender and name to Adel Dazzeeem.

 
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