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No, but he was a fellow HUMAN BEING with family and such and deserving of a bit more respect on the day of his death when a bunch of score geeks asking who wrote the best score for which film he was in.
Said the number 1 score geek.
In regarding this thread I'm reminded of a line from the film "The Mask of Dimitrios"
"How little kindness there is in the world today!"
Ford A. Thaxton
Little kindness? People here are fondly remembering a great actor. If that isn't kindness, than what is?
If we were to list our favorite films by Gardner (like a lot of filmsites are doing as a tribute), would that be ok?
If it was a composer who died. Would it be ok than to list our favorite scores as a tribute?
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Hour of the Gun and The Great Escape are #s 3 and 2 for me, but my #1 slot is probably one I alone hold:
Support Your Local Sheriff! by Jeff Alexander
And the film might just beat The Great Escape too, as a "James Garner film" because he's just one of an ensemble in TGE. Everyone who hasn't seen it should check it out, especially if they like westerns because it pokes brilliant fun at the genre without it being in an outright spoofy way. Oh, and Jack Elam as the sidekick (instead of the villain he usually plays) is FANTASTIC.
The score by Jeff Alexander has a brilliant theme which can be comedic or straight heroic, there's a pretty love theme version, oh and the guitar heavy cues for the showdowns are great.
Anybody else love this one even if it's not at the top of their list?
Yavar
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Jul 24, 2014 - 3:12 AM
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Thor
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If there's one thing as certain as day and night, it's these discussions popping up in the wake of a thread about someone recently deceased.
Personally, I don't see the problem in a tribute thread like this (it is, in fact, rather respectful to me), but I also agree there should be a period of time before it is posted. Posting it the same day seems rather unfitting. I'll let the posters decide the timeframe to keep it in good taste. Perhaps a week should be the minimum, I don't know.
In either case, these are my favourite Garner film scores:
SAYONARA (Franz Waxman), THE GREAT ESCAPE (Elmer Bernstein), HOUR OF THE GUN (Jerry Goldsmith) and MAVERICK (Randy Newman). I liked SPACE COWBOYS (Clint Eastwood), but don't remember that much of the music, to be honest. Maurice Jarre's GRAND PRIX is pretty good too, but it's straight-out LAWRENCE/ZHIVAGO material and isn't among my favs.
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Jul 24, 2014 - 6:03 AM
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Jim Phelps
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Personally, I don't see the problem in a tribute thread like this (it is, in fact, rather respectful to me), but I also agree there should be a period of time before it is posted. Posting it the same day seems rather unfitting. I'll let the posters decide the timeframe to keep it in good taste. Perhaps a week should be the minimum, I don't know.
I don't see why beginning a discussion whenever one feels like it is in bad taste. When Garner died, the first things I thought of (after reflecting on his recent health issues and advanced age) were his career achievements, because his film and TV roles were who he was to me. He wasn't a relative, a friend, or someone I had even met, but I related to him and had a connection to him by way of his film and TV career and that is how I and most everyone else here will remember him.
If people don't like the timing of these tributes, by all means avoid them or contribute to them after your own arbitrarily-chosen time period that YOU see fit but please stop judging others on when they feel the time to do so is "right."
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I'll always have two things for which to be grateful to producer Paul Gregory: my favorite film, THE NIGHT OF THE HUNTER, and the career of one of my most loved actors, James Garner. (For those who may not have read about this in Garner's autobiography THE GARNER FILES -- which, by the way, I've already recommended highly here at FSM when it was first published -- or in his obits, young Garner's turning point hinged on a fluke, when a suddenly open parking space put him in front of Paul Gregory Productions. Garner recognized the name of a soda jerk he'd known a few years earlier, dropped in to pay his respects, whereupon Garner, who'd had no theatrical ambitions or aspirations, found himself onstage playing one of the silent judges in the Charles Laughtgon-directed THE CAINE MUTINY COURT MARTIAL. He later claimed that he began to learn his craft onstage every night by studying the work of Lloyd Nolan, John Hodiak and, especially, Henry Fonda.)
I love different Garner performances and different Garner scores for different reasons, so I won't try to pick a "favorite." I will, however, point out that THE AMERICANIZATION OF EMILY, mentioned above, happens to have been Garner's own favorite Garner film. Like so many, I first discovered Garner in MAVERICK, and to this day (as I've stated in another thread) David Buttolph's MAVERICK theme remains one of the all-time greatest TV themes from the golden era when that meant something.
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Jul 24, 2014 - 8:20 AM
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Personally, I don't see the problem in a tribute thread like this (it is, in fact, rather respectful to me), but I also agree there should be a period of time before it is posted. Posting it the same day seems rather unfitting. I'll let the posters decide the timeframe to keep it in good taste. Perhaps a week should be the minimum, I don't know.
I don't see why beginning a discussion whenever one feels like it is in bad taste. When Garner died, the first things I thought of (after reflecting on his recent health issues and advanced age) were his career achievements, because his film and TV roles were who he was to me. He wasn't a relative, a friend, or someone I had even met, but I related to him and had a connection to him by way of his film and TV career and that is how I and most everyone else here will remember him.
If people don't like the timing of these tributes, by all means avoid them or contribute to them after your own arbitrarily-chosen time period that YOU see fit but please stop judging others on when they feel the time to do so is "right."
Agree. The exception, perhaps, was a case like the late Philip Seymour Hoffman, where a decent interval might have been appropriate to allow the shock of the tragedy to wear off.
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Yep, Buttolph it was. You can read a little more about it if you go over to the Non-Film Score Discussion board, where you'll find not just one but TWO threads about James Garner. (Don't tell Ford!)
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"...As for me? i go on to be a big star in Italian westerns....!!"
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