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 Posted:   Jul 27, 2014 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

The following cue sounds like what Jerry Goldsmith would have done, back when film music was still good. For me, that is so few and far between these days.

Good job Marco!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnS6iXLm1UU

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2014 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

As I recall he was a student of Goldsmith's.

If you like this, Wolverine is in the same neighborhood sonically, as is World War Z, to a lesser extent.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2014 - 6:05 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Really? This sounds nothing like Goldsmith. I can't think of a single Goldsmith score that was this sparse and atmospheric.

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2014 - 6:32 PM   
 By:   MKRUltra   (Member)

The propulsive, snare-driven theme and action cues are very nicely reminiscent of Goldsmith, yes. Just wish the rest of the score maintained that level of excitement and interest -- a good half of the album is bland and a bit subdued. Film is brilliant, though.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2014 - 3:02 AM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

I haven't heard the whole score. I was just talking about the cue I shared.

I'll amend my post subject title from:

Very reminiscent of Jerry, Beltrami's SNOWPIERCER

To: Beltrami SNOWPIERCER cue reminds me of Jerry G.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2014 - 3:50 AM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

Beltrami's action style isn't that far removed from Goldsmith's, especially all the changing meters and his fondness for 7/8.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2014 - 4:13 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Beltrami's action style isn't that far removed from Goldsmith's, especially all the changing meters and his fondness for 7/8.

I agree, and this cue mentioned ("This is the Beginning"), with its relentless snare rhythms and heroic strings and brass, sounds like something Goldsmith might have written for an action/adventure scene in something like The 13th Warrior or Timeline.

I do think that most of the rest of Snowpiercer does not sound like Goldsmith.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2014 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Beltrami was shaped by his tutelage under Jerry, and that is a good thing.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2014 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

I agree, and this cue mentioned ("This is the Beginning"), with its relentless snare rhythms and heroic strings and brass, sounds like something Goldsmith might have written for an action/adventure scene in something like The 13th Warrior or Timeline.

^ This. And then only with some stretch. First Blood it is definitely not. Not that any producer would ask for such a score nowadays anyway.

 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2014 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Beltrami's action style isn't that far removed from Goldsmith's, especially all the changing meters and his fondness for 7/8.

I agree, and this cue mentioned ("This is the Beginning"), with its relentless snare rhythms and heroic strings and brass, sounds like something Goldsmith might have written for an action/adventure scene in something like The 13th Warrior or Timeline.

I do think that most of the rest of Snowpiercer does not sound like Goldsmith.


That explains why I didn't recognize it. Not a fan of 13th Warrior or Timeline scores by Goldsmith.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2014 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

Just seen this movie and the movie itself was really nothing to remember. However the music is the best thing about the film. The best parts of the score is the parts that reminded me of the late maestro.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 26, 2014 - 8:15 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Heard nothing but positive aspects to this film, so I ordered on Blu ray. The music by Beltrami sounds good to me, not sure about the Goldsmith connection?

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2014 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Beltrami's action style isn't that far removed from Goldsmith's, especially all the changing meters and his fondness for 7/8.

I agree, and this cue mentioned ("This is the Beginning"), with its relentless snare rhythms and heroic strings and brass, sounds like something Goldsmith might have written for an action/adventure scene in something like The 13th Warrior or Timeline.

I do think that most of the rest of Snowpiercer does not sound like Goldsmith.


"This is the Beginning" is one of my favorite cues of 2014.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2014 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

On this board saying something sounds like Goldsmith is dangerous, you need to specify it sounds like 90s Goldsmith or else the 70s Goldsmith fans will riot. wink

I definitely hear similarities to scores like Air Force One, Timeline and the aforementioned 13th Warrior in that cue. As entertaining and fun as Beltrami's recent action scores get, the difference is with Goldsmith you'd have more variation going on in the orchestration, but who knows what that cue sounded like initially, I wouldn't be surprised if Beltrami had to tone it down.

As for the movie, I watched it with my brother and we both found it an interesting premise, let down by cheesy action and dumb social commentary (Think Hunger Games). The further they got on that train, the bigger a train wreck that movie became. Still ok as a rental.

 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2014 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

The music by Beltrami sounds good to me, not sure about the Goldsmith connection?

The connection is that Beltrami's music brought to mind Goldsmith's music, for the OP. Beltrami is also a protégé of Goldsmith's, having studied under and interned for him at USC.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 27, 2014 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   franz_conrad   (Member)

I felt the presence of Jerry G quite keenly during parts of this film, which I have to say was nice. smile

 
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