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 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

The best are usually my favorites:

Appaloosa
The Assassination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford
Seraphim Falls
Little House On the Prairie (2005) reboot
Open Range
Ride With the Devil
One Man's Hero
The Jack Bull
The Good Old Boys
Lone Star
Tombstone
O Pioneers!
Conagher
Black Robe
The Tracker
Lonesome Dove
The Quick and the Dead (1987)
The Ballad of Gregorio Cortez
Barbarosa


Setting aside feature films for a moment, I've bought on DVD over 300 westerns made for television since 1980 (not including episodic series). If it didn't involve so much collating and typing I'd start a thread on them. There are mini-series produced on huge budgets that surpass features, 74-minute movies-of-the-week that build up to commercial breaks (which are omitted on the DVD's thank goodness), 93-minute to a 100-minute cable films shot like features, 130 minute features, cable features that are indistinguishable from theatrical features, and so on. The distinction between a made-for-tv film and a theatrical feature film has blurred. Some made-for-cable features like The Quick and the Dead (1987 and The Tracker (1988) are shot widescreen and anamorphic while a low-budget indy like MEEK'S CUTOFF is shot Academy ratio without enough budget to pay for the thing it needs most -- a better script and a director who knows how to tell a story.

2011 Blackthorn (Brazil | USA) -- directed by Mateo Gil.
2008 Comanche Moon -- McMurtry's and Simon Wincer's deconstruction prequel of Lonesome Dove.
2008 Appaloosa -- written by Robert B. Parker / Robert Knott, directed by Ed Harris.
2007 No Country For Old Men -- Coen brothers version of Cormac McCarthy novel.
2007 The Assassination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford -- by Andrew Dominik.
2006 Seraphim Falls -- directed by David Von Ancken, natural light photography by John Toll.
2005 Little House On the Prairie -- epic reboot based on 1st novel, directed by David L. Cunningham.
2003 Open Range -- Lauren Payne story directed by Kevin Costner.
2003 Monte Walsh remake -- Jack Schaefer classic directed by Simon Wincer.
2003 Love Comes Softly -- photographed by James W. Wrenn, directed by Michael Landon Jr.
2002 The Johnson County War -- cable epic photographed by Douglas Milsome.

2000 The Virginian -- TNT director Bill Pullman breathe new life into Owen Wister classic.
2000 The Claim -- director Michael Winterbottom's riff on McCabe & Mrs. Miller.
2000 All the Pretty Horses -- Cormac McCarthy tale directed by Billy Bob Thornton.
1999 Ride With the Devil -- Daniel Woodrell's novel > masterpiece directed by Ang Lee.
1999 One Man's Hero (Mexico/USA) -- photographed by João Fernandes, directed by Lance Hool.
1999 The Jack Bull -- HBO feature film directed by John Badham.
1999 The High-Lo Country -- Max Evans' modern classic directed by Stephen Frears.
1997 True Women -- cable epic directed by Karen Arthur.
1997 Rough Riders -- TNT epic by director John Milius.
1996 Rider of the Purple Sage -- TNT revival of Zan Grey classic directed by Charles Haid.
1996 Lone Star -- written and directed by John Sayles.
1996 Dead Man's Walk -- epic Lonesome Dove prequel directed by Yves Simoneau.
1995 Wild Bill -- a Walter Hill western.
1995 Streets of Laredo -- epic Lonesome Dove sequel directed by Joeseph Sargent.
1995 The Good Old Boys -- Elmer Kelton's modern classic directed by Tommy Lee Jones.
1994 Wyatt Earp -- directed by Lawrence Kasdan.
1994 Maverick -- directed by Richard Donner.
1993 Tombstone -- written by Kevin Jarre, photographed by William Fraker, directed by lots of people.
1993 Rio Diablo -- stylized cable film directed by Rod Hardy.
1993 Return to Lonesome Dove -- unauthorized epic sequel directed by Mike Robe. Ken Thorne score surpasses original.
1993 Geronimo -- a Walter Hill western.
1993 The Ballad of Little Jo -- feminist revisionism directed by Maggie Greenwald.
1992 O Pioneers! -- Willa Cather's classic directed by Glenn Jordan.
1992 Conagher -- Louis L'Amour's romance directed by Reynaldo Villalobos.
1991 Black Robe -- pathfinder-era western directed by Bruce Beresford.
1990 Dances With Loves -- Kevin Costner's film.

1988 The Tracker -- written by Kevin Jarre, directed by John Guillermin.
1988 Lonesome Dove -- written by Larry McMurtry, scripted by William D. Witliff, directed by Simon Wincer, scored by Basil Poledouris.
1987 The Quick and the Dead -- written by Louis L'Amour, directed by Robert Day.
1986 The Red-Headed Stranger -- written and directed by William D. Wittliff himself.
1986 Gone to Texas -- directed by Peter Levin.
1985 Silverado -- written and directed by Lawrence Kasdan.
1984 Calamity Jane -- Jane Alexander shines in this telefilm directed by James Goldstone.
1982 Shadow Riders -- Louis L'Amour original telefilm directed by Andrew V. McLaglen.
1982 The Ballad of Gregorio Cortez -- Wow! docudrama directed by Robert M. Young, photographed by Reynaldo Villalobos.
1982 Barbarosa -- written William D. Wittliff, photographed by Ian Baker, directed by Fred Schipisi.
1981 Legend of the Lone Ranger -- revival directed by photographer William Fraker.
1981 Death Hunt -- directed by Peter Hunt (OHMSS, Gold).
1981 Cattle Annie and Little Britches -- directed by Lamont Johnson.

Barry Sonnenfeld's WILD WILD WEST (2007), Ron Howard's THE MISSING (2003), James Mangold's remake of 3:10 TO YUMA (2007) and Kelly Reichardt's MEEK'S CUTOFF (2010) are so mis-informed and agenda-driven they torture motivations, over-contrive the plot, defy common sense, violate plausibility, strain credulity and insult viewers intelligence. The worst and stupidest westerns I've ever seen.

Two television series, Deadwood and Hell On Wheels have changed the western forever, and for the better I think.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 12:44 PM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

1980
The Long Riders (Walter Hill)

Eighties
Pale Rider (1985) (Clint Eastwood)

Nineties
Unforgiven (1992) (Clint Eastwood)


Note Bene
The genre per se has no meaning for the people after 1980. It looses its mythology and its ability to make people dream. It's like watching a ghost.
Have you ever tried to watch Jim Jarmush's 1995 arty western Dead Man? Don't bother.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

2004 The Alamo - remake of 1960 film, directed by John Lee Hancock
2007 3:10 to Yuma - remake of 1957 film, directed by James Mangold
2010 True Grit - remake of 1969 film, directed by Joel Coen

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   MusicMaker   (Member)

Some of my favorites of the period:

Open Range (2003)
The Man From Snowy River (1982)
Tombstone (1993)
The Grey Fox (1982)
Maverick (1994)
3:10 to Yuma (2007)
Lone Star (1996)

Honorable Mention: Legend of the Lone Ranger (1981) - first Western I ever saw (I was 5)

While the following aren't necessarily my favorites (or all even films that I like), I thought I'd mention several others that don't seem to be in the OP's post, since it looks like he's going for a fairly comprehensive list of Western (or Western-ish) films from the period:

2012 Django Unchained - written and directed by Quentin Tarrantino
2010 True Grit - remake helmed by the Coen brothers
2006 Broken Trail - miniseries starring Robert Duvall and Thomas Haden Church
2005 The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada - dir. Tommy Lee Jones, prod. Luc Besson
2005 The Proposition - written by Nick Cave, starring Guy Pearce and Ray Winstone
1995 The Quick and the Dead - dir. Sam Raimi
1994 Bad Girls - hmm… at least it has a great score by Jerry Goldsmith!
1990 Quigley Down Under - starring Tom Selleck and Alan Rickman
1990 Young Guns II - sequel to the 1988 film
1988 The Man From Snowy River II - sequel to the 1982 film, produced by Disney
1988 Young Guns - starring Emelio Estevez, Charlie Sheen, Kiefer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Phillips
1982 The Man From Snowy River - based on the poem, starring Tom Burlinson, Kirk Douglas, and Jack Thompson
1982 The Grey Fox - biopic starring Richard Farnsworth


There are also lots of Western-ish films from the period:
2014 A Million Ways to Die in the West - written/produced/directed/starring Seth MacFarlane
2011 Rango - animated feature, dir. Gore Verbinski
2007 There Will Be Blood - dir. Paul Thomas Anderson, starring Daniel Day-Lewis
2004 Home on the Range - animated feature from Walt Disney Feature Animation
2003 The Last Samurai - dir. Edward Zwick
2000 Shanghai Noon - starring Jackie Chan and Owen Wilson
1999 Ravenous - starring Guy Pearce
1995 Desperado - dir. Robert Rodriguez
1994 City Slickers II: The Legend of Curly's Gold - sequel to the 1991 film
1994 Legends of the Fall - dir. Edward Zwick
1992 Thunderheart - starring Val Kilmer, Sam Shepard
1992 El Mariachi - dir. Robert Rodriguez
1991 City Slickers - starring Billy Crystal
1991 Am American Tail: Fievel Goes West - animated feature, prod. Steven Spielberg
1990 Back to the Future Part III - dir. Robert Zemeckis
1988 The Milagro Beanfield War - dir. Robert Redford, based on the John Nichols novel
1986 ¡Three Amigos! - dir. John Landis, wr. Lorne Michaels, Steve Martin, and Randy Newman

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   MusicMaker   (Member)

Looks like Bob DiMucci and I covered a couple of the same things while posting at around the same time. Sorry for the duplication.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2014 - 3:38 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Two westerns from 2001, neither well thought of, should also be listed:

Texas Rangers - directed by Steve Miner
American Outlaws - directed by Les Mayfield

Then there's

2000 South of Heaven, West of Hell - directed by Dwight Yoakam
1995 Riders In the Storm - with Bo Hopkins, directed by Charles Biggs
1994 Silent Tongue - with Richard Harris, directed by Sam Shepard
1993 Posse - starring and directed by Mario Van Peebles
1980 Heaven's Gate - directed by Michael Cimino
1980 Tom Horn - with Steve McQueen, directed by William Wiard
1980 The Mountain Men - with Charlton Heston, directed by Richard Lang

And the "western-ish"

Grizzly Mountain (1997) - with Dan Haggerty, directed by Jeremy Haft
Last Man Standing (1996) - directed by Walter Hill, and like A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS, based on YOJIMBO
Wagons East (1994) - with John Candy, directed by Peter Markle
Lightning Jack (1994) - with Paul Hogan, directed by Simon Wincer
Lust In the Dust (1985) - with Tab Hunter, directed by Paul Bartel

And finally, a real rarity, A Time For Dying, the final western film of famed director Budd Boetticher and actor Audie Murphy--completed in 1969, but not released theatrically until 1982.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 2:02 AM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

I wasn't trying to offer a complete list of westerns, just the most best / favorites. But you guys have offered up some good ones.

I don't mean to argumentative, but THE PROPOSITION isn't a western. It's an Australian film about Australia filmed in Australia. It uses America's western mythos, but it's just a period film about Australia. It's not a western. It's not a western because westerns take place in western America and are about western America. A compelling film, though.

Although it's set in the American west, RAVENOUS doesn't feel much like a western. Everybody does their best with American accents but they act like Brits fighting the Boer War in Africa or the Thugees in India. It's about how the necessity to resort to cannibalism turns into an attraction for cannibalism. I can't stand the film. I wish I'd never seen it. It was made by the Brits and the Czech's in Prague. No matter what it uses for a setting it sure as hell ain't no western. Yeah I know all about the Donner party but RAVENOUS still ain't no western.

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 3:49 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

It's a pretty sparse list from me for this period. Only 'Heaven's Gate', 'The Long Riders', 'Wyatt Earp' and 'Open Range' stand out from all the titles available. I'd include 'Dances With Wolves', apparently it's a "revisionist western".

Some of the rest are very average for me. I didn't enjoy the likes of 'Appaloosa', 'True Grit', '3:10 To Yuma' or 'Seraphim Falls' at all unfortunately.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 4:45 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

"The best are usually my favorites"
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I never got past this bit! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

"The best are usually my favorites"
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I never got past this bit! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 5:21 AM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)


Nineties
Unforgiven (1992) (Clint Eastwood)




Awards for Unforgiven
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105695/awards

Trailer for Unforgiven
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDAXGILEdro

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2014 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

i already told you westerns finished in 1976 with the missouri boat ride, why you all no listen??

nice list bob. Thank heavens weve got a proper western expert in our midst to catch all the errors.
And ever helpful.



one dog goes this way, one dog goes the other way and this guys saying What do you want from me?
Looks like someone we know?
Hey, its him!!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2014 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

Bob DiMucci:
...
And finally, a real rarity, A Time For Dying, the final western film of famed director Budd Boetticher and actor Audie Murphy--completed in 1969, but not released theatrically until 1982.


Are you sure about that, Bob? I read somewhere Boetticher completed A Time For Dying in 1967, and I distinctly remember seeing it in 1971 or 1972 and not liking it. I like it now, though.

Have you seen Ang Lee's RIDE WITH THE DEVIL (1999) and Andrew Dominik's THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD (2007)? Significant films, both faithful to the historical novels on which they are based, and very significant westerns. Essential westerns.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2014 - 2:12 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Bob DiMucci:
...
And finally, a real rarity, A Time For Dying, the final western film of famed director Budd Boetticher and actor Audie Murphy--completed in 1969, but not released theatrically until 1982.


Are you sure about that, Bob? I read somewhere Boetticher completed A Time For Dying in 1967, and I distinctly remember seeing it in 1971 or 1972 and not liking it. I like it now, though.


You are probably correct. Further research reveals that the MPAA rated the film in 1969, giving it an [M] rating. The film didn’t open in New York City until the week of 2 June 1982. And it wasn’t registered for copyright until a few weeks later, on 23 June 1982. But the copyright record gives the “Date of Creation” as 1969, and the “Date of Publication” as 28 September 1971. The “date of publication” for a film is most likely the date of its first public exhibition (at least so far as the filmmakers could recall a decade or so after the fact). So, it’s quite likely that you saw the film somewhere in late 1971 or 1972.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2014 - 6:12 PM   
 By:   Richard-W   (Member)

Thomas:
It's a pretty sparse list from me for this period. Only 'Heaven's Gate', 'The Long Riders', 'Wyatt Earp' and 'Open Range' stand out from all the titles available. I'd include 'Dances With Wolves', apparently it's a "revisionist western".

Some of the rest are very average for me. I didn't enjoy the likes of 'Appaloosa', 'True Grit', '3:10 To Yuma' or 'Seraphim Falls' at all unfortunately.


The remake of 3:10 TO YUMA was a huge step down from the other two.

What about Ang Lee's RIDE WITH THE DEVIL (1999) and Andrew Dominick's THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD (2007) ? Did you see those?

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2014 - 4:43 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

What about Ang Lee's RIDE WITH THE DEVIL (1999) and Andrew Dominick's THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD (2007) ? Did you see those?

Richard

I haven't seen 'Ride With The Devil' so I'll try to give it a viewing soon as possible. I have seen 'The Assassination of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford' and I enjoyed it. I actually bought it on DVD when it was released, don't know why I didn't include it on my list.

 
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