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Jul 31, 2014 - 5:44 PM
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Zooba
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Finally watched this movie. I remember seeing trailers for it when it was first coming out and some of the trailers, to be honest gave it a sort of amateurish feeling. And so I was apprehensive about this movie. Since those initial trailers and the way they were edited and after seeing the film now, my mind has completely changed. This movie had me in tears. The heartfelt story of the Cristeros and and their fight for religious freedom really got to me. Andy Garcia who usually plays a dick, was great as the retired military general who is hired to build an army to fight the evil oppression in Mexico. Cue Horner's "Danger" motif! Ha ha. Even though Horner recycled pretty much note for note his Main Theme from THE FOUR FEATHERS, his music score works greatly with the picture. I just don't know why he reuses music from picture to picture. It just doesn't make sense. However like I said it still works wonderfully and powerfully. I found myself crying at least 3 time during the film. I guess since it had such a strong religious story, of course it died at the box office and was considered a pretty big flop. That's sad. It totally worked for me. I truly enjoyed Garcia's performance and Ruben Blades gave a great turn as the Bad Guy leader of Mexico who wanted to end all religion in his country. Eva Longoria was quite good and for me totally unrecognizable as Garcia's wife. Maurcio Kuri, the young actor playing the boy who joined up to be a Cristero was truly wonderful in his heartfelt, heartbreaking and ultimately heroic performance as Jose. Peter O'toole I believe in his last role as the old priest who is the young boy's mentor and inspiration was nice. All of the supporting players were very well cast and brought a sense of reality to the proceedings. Bruce Greenwood best known for playing Capt. Pike in the New Star Trek was excellent and endearing as the U.S. to Mexico Ambassador. I really loved him in this. Bruce McGill who had basically a walk on as President Calvin Coolidge was totally wasted in that part. They should have just hired an extra that looked more like the actual President. I highly recommend seeing this film. To return to Horner's score just for a second, I remember buying the CD, back when the film was released theatrically and one theme in the movie, the one done Vocally just totally reminded me and sounds like Leonard Bernstein's ONE HAND, ONE HEART Love Theme from WEST SIDE STORY. Works great in the film. Please share your views on Film and Score of FOR GREATER GLORY! Thanks.
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Jul 31, 2014 - 11:49 PM
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Mike_H
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One of the things I love most about Horner's orchestrations is that the lines and colors are so clean and stratified-- it's not just an aural mush of sound. Here's a quote from one of his orchestrators, Jon Kull: With Horner there's usually a fair amount of separation of colors, and less layering. He has definite ideas about what he wants to hear, coupled with an impressive command of the orchestra, so I stick to what he's given me, keeping things pure and not too embellished. Newton Howard is rather heavily influenced by the audio image of his orchestra, not to mention the layering of percussive and electronic elements that are more of a feature in his music. So with him it's important for the orchestra to have some body and presence in all the families – strings, winds, and brass. More often than not I try to make each instrumental group complete in itself. They're both pretty specific about primary colors, Horner in particular. I do think the makeup of his orchestral palette is settled for him the moment he first sees a film. And since he sketches directly to orchestral score paper there's little doubt about which voice goes where. Also this is a pretty interesting interview with the vocalist from the score- http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/clara-sanabras-for-greater-clara-2/
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Jan 9, 2015 - 4:22 PM
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MikeP
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The recent bump of this thread kicked me in gear to finally pick this score up and WOW, what a fabulous score this is, everything that Horner does right ( and yeah, wrong ) add up here to a top notch, highly entertaining listen. Heaven help me, I do love his danger motif, and it gets a huge workout here. Plus, a lovely theme, one of his best, long cues that never get dull...plus, the wife loves the pictures of Andy Garcia, so, win-win at home How did I miss out on getting this for so long? Hmmm now Black Gold is on my radar.
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Jan 10, 2015 - 12:06 AM
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Amer Zahid
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The recent bump of this thread kicked me in gear to finally pick this score up and WOW, what a fabulous score this is, everything that Horner does right ( and yeah, wrong ) add up here to a top notch, highly entertaining listen. Heaven help me, I do love his danger motif, and it gets a huge workout here. Plus, a lovely theme, one of his best, long cues that never get dull...plus, the wife loves the pictures of Andy Garcia, so, win-win at home How did I miss out on getting this for so long? Hmmm now Black Gold is on my radar. Mike, BLACK GOLD is on my next order list having watched it recently. It appears to be hidden gem that didnt appear on my radar. As for GREATER GLORY, I sampled it but found it too similar to FOUR FEATHERS. May still get it though!
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