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 Posted:   Aug 13, 2014 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I'm starting to take for granted now the fact that when I put on a new score by John Scott, I will be rewarded with AT LEAST one new sumptuous and memorable theme, (though it can be two), together with some stirring action cues and well written and orchestrated suspense or mood music.
This little beauty opens with a cool little military-style march for the King's Hussars and has the trade-mark Scott 'beautiful/elegant love theme', which gets lots of plays and variations throughout and is probably heard best in the Day At The Coast cue.
There's another, classical sounding theme, given a grand rendition near the end in Christoff's Return.
I haven't seen the film (nor likely will) but that's okay, because the film I see in my head, when the characters discuss poetry or make love in the barn, is likely to be much better than the finished product (and meaning no disrespect to the finished film).
I am trying to keep my listening order intact (I'm up to The Deceivers at the mo' in his filmography order), but grabbed this one from the shelf just to shake things up a bit.
Please share your thoughts about this score (or the film).
I look forward to reading them.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2014 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)




One of my favorite John Scott scores.
Just a pity the lengthy track with numerous examples of solo bugle calls isn't at the end as a bonus track instead of stuck right in the middle of the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2014 - 1:33 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Aye, that cue and the tavern/accordion track where the first to go during my re-edit.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Only two people around here know and like this score??!!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 10, 2015 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

I love, love, LOVE John Scott but this one isn't among my favorites - Orchestrations are great as always but the themes feel pedantic and lacking real dramatic heft, like Scott knew what he was scoring to was very, erm, "light" material. It almost borders on feeling Rachel Portman-y to me at times.

Compare the love theme here to either of the two primary identities from MAN ON FIRE or his stunning BECOMING COLETTE - Just no comparison in terms of searing drama and emotional resonance.

That said, I still do enjoy it in places, and edited a 15 minute suite of highlights for myself. From his mid-to-late 90's output, it's pretty hard to top FAR FROM HOME, WALKING THUNDER, SHERGAR, THE NORTH STAR or 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA, all of which were composed within a year or two of Scarlet Tunic and are on a whole other level of drama and craftsmanship. Granted, very different films too, but regardless...

Either way, always happy to see people discussing this truly brilliant and gifted man's music.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2015 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

I love, love, LOVE John Scott but this one isn't among my favorites - Orchestrations are great as always but the themes feel pedantic and lacking real dramatic heft, like Scott knew what he was scoring to was very, erm, "light" material. It almost borders on feeling Rachel Portman-y to me at times.

Compare the love theme here to either of the two primary identities from MAN ON FIRE or his stunning BECOMING COLETTE - Just no comparison in terms of searing drama and emotional resonance.

That said, I still do enjoy it in places, and edited a 15 minute suite of highlights for myself. From his mid-to-late 90's output, it's pretty hard to top FAR FROM HOME, WALKING THUNDER, SHERGAR, THE NORTH STAR or 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA, all of which were composed within a year or two of Scarlet Tunic and are on a whole other level of drama and craftsmanship. Granted, very different films too, but regardless...

Either way, always happy to see people discussing this truly brilliant and gifted man's music.



Those five scores would be my choices too from that period, bobbengan.
I agree about "The Scarlet Tunic". It's not on the level of those five - some good music in there but for JS's exceptional standards this is pretty much average.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2015 - 6:32 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Those five scores would be my choices too from that period, bobbengan.
I agree about "The Scarlet Tunic". It's not on the level of those five - some good music in there but for JS's exceptional standards this is pretty much average.


Indeed. I think some of his "British" scores sometimes suffer from this lightenss. MILL ON THE FLOSS from the same year left me with the same sentiment. Oddly though his THE SHOOTING PARTY didn't; That one's especially evocative and interesting and I'd actually recommend it as a superior alternative to Scarlet Tunic. Have you heard that one?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2015 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Those five scores would be my choices too from that period, bobbengan.
I agree about "The Scarlet Tunic". It's not on the level of those five - some good music in there but for JS's exceptional standards this is pretty much average.


Indeed. I think some of his "British" scores sometimes suffer from this lightenss. MILL ON THE FLOSS from the same year left me with the same sentiment. Oddly though his THE SHOOTING PARTY didn't; That one's especially evocative and interesting and I'd actually recommend it as a superior alternative to Scarlet Tunic. Have you heard that one?


The Shooting Party is Mr Scott's best score, imho.

A powerful, evocative, tragic movie, too.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2015 - 6:59 AM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

Those five scores would be my choices too from that period, bobbengan.
I agree about "The Scarlet Tunic". It's not on the level of those five - some good music in there but for JS's exceptional standards this is pretty much average.


Indeed. I think some of his "British" scores sometimes suffer from this lightenss. MILL ON THE FLOSS from the same year left me with the same sentiment. Oddly though his THE SHOOTING PARTY didn't; That one's especially evocative and interesting and I'd actually recommend it as a superior alternative to Scarlet Tunic. Have you heard that one?



Of course I have - it's by turns majestic and haunting, one of Scott's absolute best!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2015 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

The Shooting Party is Mr Scott's best score, imho.

A powerful, evocative, tragic movie, too.


It is indeed - Very very good in fact. And gorgeously photographed.

 
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