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 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   panphoto   (Member)

(aka 'Southwest to Sonora') Does anyone know if this ever had a release? I recall it as a sensitive and slightly understated score with beautiful and memorable thematic ideas.

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Off the top of my head, I cannot think of a single Frank Skinner score on CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

i never saw it on LP either. Bob will know.

quite a rare film. Ive only caught it on tv a few times over the years in the Uk, most recently on tcm about a month ago.
it was always One Eyed Jacks poor cousin and never seemed to get much recognition.

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 3:31 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I'm fairly certain it never saw the light of day on LP.

I could be wrong, though.

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 3:39 PM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

I'm fairly certain it never saw the light of day on LP.

I could be wrong, though.


I'm pretty sure you are right, Ron. I looked for it after I saw the film and never came up with anything.
Several of his scores made it to LP, like Written on the Wind and Magnificent Obsession, but none of them ever made it to CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 4:16 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


I started to buy soundtrack LPs in 1964 and never saw an LP to The Appaloosa. I'm sure there never was one. Never saw the theme etc. on any compilation LPs.

I do have 9 Frank Skinner LPs. That's 9 more than Hans Salter had in the 50s and 60s.

Don't think we have any Frank Skinner cds although John Morgan and Bill Stromberg did newly record some Skinner music for Marco Polo.

I'm surprised that no one has issued any 50s and 60s Skinner at Universal cds.

So, where is Basil Wrathbone? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

The original tracks from THE APPALOOSA have never been issued in any format. A group called Trumpets Ole covered Frank Skinner's main theme from the film on a Decca LP entitled "The Trumpets Ole Play" (DL 78421). That theme was also released on a single (32020).



 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

thanks bob, never knew it had been released in any form.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

thanks bob, never knew it had been released in any form.


The Trumpets Ole albums were produced by Milton DeLugg. Delugg became a household name for a brief time when "Dating Game" impresario Chuck Barris hired Delugg to appear on stage leading "Milton Delugg and the Band with a Thug" on his "Gong Show" talent contest show.

 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

A word very close to "Appaloosa" in the dictionary is "Appalling" which is suitable for describing our specialist soundtrack labels' failure to give us even one official original soundtrack CD of the great Frank Skinner's music during the entire history of the CD medium.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 11:14 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

So when one speaks of "no Frank Skinner score on CD" the reference is specifically to OST's, which is why the Skinner/Salter re-recordings from Morgan & Stromberg don't count? (Or the few selections on Bruce Kimmel's SHERLOCK HOLMES album?) Even by that stringent limitation, I think there is one precious (legitimate) Skinner releases on CD, the pairing of MAN OF A THOUSAND FACES and WRITTEN ON THE WIND. (And there are uncredited snippets of Skinner on the Salter "HORROR RHAPSODY.")

Still, it is indeed a disgrace that there aren't more. You'd think that at least some of the other ones that made it onto an LP could now be re-released on CD. Starting with SHENANDOAH, if I had my druthers.

Something perhaps for Bruce to consider over at Kritzerland?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2014 - 11:45 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Hey, look what I just found!

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/thefrankskinnerproject

(Too bad it's download only, at least so far...)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2014 - 12:24 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I think there is one precious (legitimate) Skinner release on CD, the pairing of MAN OF A THOUSAND FACES and WRITTEN ON THE WIND.


Depends on how you define "legitimate." The 2012 Disques CinéMusique release of MAN OF A THOUSAND FACES / WRITTEN ON THE WIND was legal in Canada, but not authorized by Universal, and used an LP as its source. But accepting that, Disques CinéMusique also issued a Skinner double feature of the albums for IMITATION OF LIFE and INTERLUDE. And in 2008, Britain's Sepia label had released Skinner's TAMMY AND THE BACHELOR (paired with the non-skinner APRIL LOVE).

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2014 - 12:34 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Thanks for the refinement, Bob.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2014 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Even by that stringent limitation, I think there is one precious (legitimate) Skinner releases on CD, the pairing of MAN OF A THOUSAND FACES and WRITTEN ON THE WIND.




Superb music for sure, but I understand that release to be no more legitimate than if I had grabbed copies of the two old Decca (or later Varese) LPs myself and made some CD copies of them.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2014 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

Hey, look what I just found!

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/thefrankskinnerproject

(Too bad it's download only, at least so far...)




Preston, you are a tease!

At first this looks exciting. But it looks like Frank Skinner arrangements of pop songs of the 1920s and 1930s!

So ...... this doesn't count! smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2014 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I'm with you, Preston.

Start with "Shenandoah"...the complete original stereo tracks from the film, please.

I've begged Intrada to look into this over the years.

I fear they fear there is no "buying interest" in Skinner.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2014 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I'm with you, Preston.

Start with "Shenandoah"...the complete original stereo tracks from the film, please.

I've begged Intrada to look into this over the years.

I fear they fear there is no "buying interest" in Skinner.




I think you are right Ron. I get the impression the labels feel Frank Skinner cds might not sell very well. So far we don't even know that. No label has ever issued a Frank Skinner cd! I too would think Bruce K. would try at least one.

Most golden age composers scored many "big" films. Steiner, Korngold, Newman, Rozsa, Waxman, Herrmann etc. all scored hit films, many of which are still popular today. Hans Salter once told me Universal mostly did "B" films when he and Frank were there, and the occasional "A" film. Most of Skinner's films are long forgotten except for the Universal horror films. Luckily, Morgan/Stromberg did newly record much of the Skinner/Salter horror films and they are fantastic cds.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2014 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Even by that stringent limitation, I think there is one precious (legitimate) Skinner releases on CD, the pairing of MAN OF A THOUSAND FACES and WRITTEN ON THE WIND.




Superb music for sure, but I understand that release to be no more legitimate than if I had grabbed copies of the two old Decca (or later Varese) LPs myself and made some CD copies of them.


Legitimate or not, it is better than having nothing. I am sorry that Disques Cinemusique stopped releasing these CD's. I was hoping for Tiomkin's RETURN TO PARADISE. Now it will never happen.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2014 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Basil, did you see Bob's post?

***

I'm going to contact Bruce and see if he's been reading this thread...

 
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