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I think there's a related thread here:
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=104876&forumID=1&archive=0
Sure I listen to soundtrack albums before seeing the film, after seeing the film, or without seeing the film at all. Depends. It has happened that I listened to a soundtrack album and only years later happened to see the movie.
However, it is of interest to me to know about the movie the music was written for and the movie has some bearing on my perception of the music.
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Aug 27, 2014 - 2:42 AM
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Francis
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And the answer is NO. Then I ask them if they have seen all the music videos that your favourite singer has done? Then they usually getting the point.
That reasoning is flawed, as those singers don't make music for a video clip, the video clip comes after the music is done and only for a couple of songs of the album. The music is the end product, not the video clip that's just there to support and promote it.
Film music is written for a movie, and wouldn't exist without that movie, it is the context, the reason for it to be there. Had there been no star wars trilogy, there'd have been no John Williams Star Wars scores. The movie is the end product, the music will get a release or not depending on its strength or appeal outside of the picture...
Now wether you decide for yourself if watching the movie is a must or not, that's really your own preference, but to me film music originates through film and I find that link important.
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Aug 27, 2014 - 5:51 AM
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Tobias
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And the answer is NO. Then I ask them if they have seen all the music videos that your favourite singer has done? Then they usually getting the point.
That reasoning is flawed, as those singers don't make music for a video clip, the video clip comes after the music is done and only for a couple of songs of the album. The music is the end product, not the video clip that's just there to support and promote it.
Film music is written for a movie, and wouldn't exist without that movie, it is the context, the reason for it to be there. Had there been no star wars trilogy, there'd have been no John Williams Star Wars scores. The movie is the end product, the music will get a release or not depending on its strength or appeal outside of the picture...
Now wether you decide for yourself if watching the movie is a must or not, that's really your own preference, but to me film music originates through film and I find that link important.
Many times several of us on this board (incl. me) buy CD`s because of the fact that we like the music of that composer, whether that composer have written the music to a visual media or not we tend to go back to that composer that we like. As mentioned above there are some who have almost never seen the films to the scores that they buy. So even if the music is written for a movie and yes it would not exist without that movie that does not make it necessary to actually watch the movie.
So tell me Francis you have never bought a soundtrack just only for the composer without bothering to actually see the movie? Because if you have then you are the one with a flawed response.
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Aug 27, 2014 - 6:53 AM
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Francis
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And the answer is NO. Then I ask them if they have seen all the music videos that your favourite singer has done? Then they usually getting the point.
That reasoning is flawed, as those singers don't make music for a video clip, the video clip comes after the music is done and only for a couple of songs of the album. The music is the end product, not the video clip that's just there to support and promote it.
Film music is written for a movie, and wouldn't exist without that movie, it is the context, the reason for it to be there. Had there been no star wars trilogy, there'd have been no John Williams Star Wars scores. The movie is the end product, the music will get a release or not depending on its strength or appeal outside of the picture...
Now wether you decide for yourself if watching the movie is a must or not, that's really your own preference, but to me film music originates through film and I find that link important.
Many times several of us on this board (incl. me) buy CD`s because of the fact that we like the music of that composer, whether that composer have written the music to a visual media or not we tend to go back to that composer that we like. As mentioned above there are some who have almost never seen the films to the scores that they buy. So even if the music is written for a movie and yes it would not exist without that movie that does not make it necessary to actually watch the movie.
So tell me Francis you have never bought a soundtrack just only for the composer without bothering to actually see the movie? Because if you have then you are the one with a flawed response.
I already answered that question in this thread if you bothered to read, yes I have bought scores I didn't see the movie of (though usually I do seek the film out not long after). I'm just saying your music video clip analogy is flawed and to me makes zero sense.
Look, I know there are soundtrack albums that can fare on their own and are presented as albums for listening and appreciating the music, but I sometimes get the impression from people on this board that the music is the end all (understandable on a film score board) and they'd rather see a movie destroyed if it meant a score could go all out and meet their listening needs on a disc, than actually service the visuals and editing of the movie it is ultimately written for. I see people berating composers because they wrote a score that doesn't sound like their previous grand works, overlooking the fact that the movies those scores are written for are completely different animals and both need a totally different approach.
It's music written for film, we are a minority of people who actually listen to the music written for those movies (and not concert works). To me, that context of a film being there only enhances the music, rarely otherwise (unless maybe it's a genre I don't care for).
Let me ask you this question, looking up other scores from composers you like, which we all do at some point, doesn't make you want to check how that score plays in the movie?
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Aug 27, 2014 - 7:10 AM
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mstrox
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I would say my collection is a 50/50 split between movies that I've seen and movies that I haven't seen. That number is increasing, I'd say, as I see fewer movies these days and buy the same amount of score albums as I used to.
Some of my favorite scores are albums I heard, and saw the movies later (Shore's Fellowship of the Ring, Williams' Star Wars prequel scores, for instance). In the case of the former, the score was really the main reason I went to see the movie - at that time, I had little knowledge about Tolkien.
On the flipside, there are certain scores that I never would have bought without hearing it in the context of the film, and much of the pleasure I get from listening to it is derived from its ties to moments in that film.
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