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 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

I have a burned copy of the original Varese Sarabande Lawrence of Arabia and looking for a upgrade.
Which version is the best? Nic Raine, Tony Bremner or the shorter original one by Jarre himself? I don't need the complete score but I want the best sound quality. Any ideas?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   Joe Brausam   (Member)

Nic Raine's Tadlow recording!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

I found a older thread about this subject and YES the new Tadlow recording looks like hands down the only way to go. Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

What I heard when watching the film.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

The soundtrack CD included with the Blu-Ray box set.

I understand this is a bitch of a situation, but it really is the best pure audio production featuring the original tracks.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Another vote for Tadlow here.

I have the 50th anniversary Blu-Ray, which is a stunning presentation of the movie, and came with a Sony/RCA disc of Jarre's score that I am glad to have; but, for me, James Fitzpatrick's 2010 recording wins for its majesty and power, with the added bonus of its very satisfying album presentation.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   Mr Hand   (Member)

You probably will throw rocks at me, but my preferred version remains the Bremner recording, out of habit I guess. Maybe not 100% faithful, but musically rewarding.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Nic Raine's Tadlow recording!

By a country mile!

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 6:06 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

The Tadlow recording is one of the best re-creations of a score ever. It sounds better than any other version, and has a performance that is very close to the original tracks. I've had the original soundtrack and the Silva recording, this the only Lawrence of Arabia I listen to anymore.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 8:07 PM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

There are very, very few re-recordings that I would unconditionally recommend above the originals, but the Tadlow Lawrence of Arabia is one of them. An incredible accomplishment on every level and I've never gone back to the original since picking this one up.

Chris

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2014 - 10:16 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

The Nic Raine Tadlow recording is complete and the best so far. I have both the Varese issue and the subsequent remaster from the Blu Ray set. Keep them all !

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2014 - 1:34 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I've got the original soundtrack recording, the Tony Bremner recording, and the Tadlow recording, and if you get only one, the Tadlow should be the first choice. Excellent recording.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2014 - 2:10 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

I've got the original soundtrack recording, the Tony Bremer recording, and the Tadlow recording, and if you get only one, the Tadlow should be the first choice. Excellent recording.

A remastered edition of the Tony Bremner recording in surround sound format was also issued with improved dynamics. Sonically I find this good as well but content wise it fares poorly with the Tadlow recording.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2014 - 3:06 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

The Tadlow release is the best for me, it’s the one I listen to. I’ve had the Bremner recording for years as well, and enjoyed it for the extra music it featured. But it's pale in comparison with the Tadlow. Hasn’t James Fitz said that the Bremner recording was one of his worst experiences and that everything that could go wrong with it did? I think he said the only good thing about it was the booklet!

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2014 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Check out the other threads on this.

Varese issued two versions of this, the second with more cues than the old album but sound on the OST was always compromised. Sometimes this 'five overhead mikes' technique produced serendipitous results, suggestive of echoes and desert vistas etc., and smoothed over the orchestra/synth interfaces on the electronic parts. But generally it's just bad sound.

The Silva had a reduced string section and too upfront percussion. The performance and sound were amazing, but Chris Palmer totally reorchestrated many parts and rearranged some, destroying for example the 'Bringing Gasim into Camp' cue. Jarre was very pointed about this in his later notes for the Varese expanded OST release. For some reason, probably to fill up space, 'On to Akaba' was repeated twice!

Tadlow got it right. Every cue is complete, and even the choral bit and the ululating women were in there. James can get women ululating.

It's just a pity MJ died shortly before its release.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2014 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

You probably will throw rocks at me, but my preferred version remains the Bremner recording, out of habit I guess. Maybe not 100% faithful, but musically rewarding.

Why? Contrarian opinions are always welcome, but reasons need to be advanced.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2014 - 8:30 AM   
 By:   dbrooks   (Member)

Now is the 2012 Silva Anniversary release by Nic Raine the same music as the 2010 Tadlow double disc release?

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2014 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Mr Hand   (Member)

You probably will throw rocks at me, but my preferred version remains the Bremner recording, out of habit I guess. Maybe not 100% faithful, but musically rewarding.

Why? Contrarian opinions are always welcome, but reasons need to be advanced.


Well, I find the Bremner recording more dynamic, more aggressive in its sound, it constantly moves forward, it's edgier, with less of a "concert" feel. I noticed some orchestrations are missing or different, and the Raine recording is certainly richer and more ample in this regard, but nonetheless I still prefer the Bremner one. But, again, I grew up with this one, and I'm totally accustomed to it, even more so than the original music heard in the movie. When I want to hear Lawrence, I go for it instinctively.

Don't get me wrong, the Raine recording is a great one, complete and probably more faithful to the movie score, and I will keep it; but, as we have now both readings offered to the world, I feel less ashamed to prefer the "artistic choices" made on the Bremner one and vilified by James Fitzpatrick.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2014 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

The Tadlow release is the one I go to when I want to hear this score.

 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2014 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   Mr Hand   (Member)

I've got the original soundtrack recording, the Tony Bremer recording, and the Tadlow recording, and if you get only one, the Tadlow should be the first choice. Excellent recording.

A remastered edition of the Tony Bremner recording in surround sound format was also issued with improved dynamics. Sonically I find this good as well but content wise it fares poorly with the Tadlow recording.



Yes, that's the one I have. Great cover too.

 
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