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 Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

On the occasion of the scottish independence referendum I was just listening to Horner`s Braveheart for the first time in ages and have to say that I really enjoyed it. Although a bit too long. A problem I have with many Horner albums.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Och, thile be cryin int'r beer and thistles too-neet.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

My second fave Horner score after Legends of the Fall. I played yesterday as well. Could do with a 2 disc version to include all the unreleased music including the film version of For The Love of A Princess.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

If yeez want tae know what most Scottish people think o' yer actual film Braveheart, then listen tae this mon here.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I was all set to listen to this today along with a 6 pack of Irn-Bru. Can't be arsed now.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I saw a youtube vid yesterday which I can't find now, which was posted as part of the 'Yes' campaign. It listed the ten supposed 'myths' that 'scaremongers' were supposedly propagating. The usual suspects were there about economics, defence, welfare etc., but the tenth was the charge that Braveheart was a sort of idealistic rallying call and therefore an embarrassment to the Yes peoples' cred.

So even the Yes campaign were keen to distance themselves from it.

Scots have two traits. They have a down-to-earth praticality and common sense logic, no matter how mystical they can get, AND they have a passionate aspect. Both have positive and negative sides.So you get genius engineers and scientists as well as dour obsessives, and you get fantastic artists and creatives as well as brawler depressives.

But these are largely stereotypes, and, no matter how much they may wink and play up for tourists or on holiday abroad Scots HATE stereotyping. They aren't naive and they choose sensibly as a rule.

This result is very far reaching because it'll mean more devolved powers in the rest of the UK and in the English regons. There might ultimately be a federal states union.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   Montana Dave   (Member)

I was all set to listen to this today along with a 6 pack of Irn-Bru. Can't be arsed now.


Thomas, feel free to send me anything you don't want that's made from Girders wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I was all set to listen to this today along with a 6 pack of Irn-Bru. Can't be arsed now.

Hey Thomas, if the Yes people HAD won, all that money chucked at the Ulster Scots hokum by the DUP would have suddenly dried up and they'd've all started inventing new Anglo Irish 'cultural ties' since there'd be no mileage in exaggerating the Scots thing any more!

Now you US fellas .... this can be a nice thread, and we can all avoid political wrangle. Y'see, despite all the stereotyping about the 'fighting Scots' there's nobody at one another's throats in Scotland over this. It's all very peaceful. So no toadying and exaggerating please.

Horner's score is okay. I hear a strong similarity of line between Holst's 'I Vow to Thee My Country' Jupiter theme and the main theme of the film though but in a Caledonian mode.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

DP.

PS. That Irn Bru'll gie yeez all diabeetus.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2014 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Och, yon Youtube thingy above didnae come oot richt. (Ye canna dae this sort of stuff on a smartphone properly) so here it is as it SHOULD be:






The truth re that Gibson's bit o' hokum.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2014 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Hey Thomas, if the Yes people HAD won, all that money chucked at the Ulster Scots hokum by the DUP would have suddenly dried up and they'd've all started inventing new Anglo Irish 'cultural ties' since there'd be no mileage in exaggerating the Scots thing any more!

TOMMY: Doesn't it make you proud to be Scottish?

RENTON: I hate being Scottish. We're the lowest of the fucking low, the scum of the earth, the most wretched, servile, miserable, pathetic trash that was ever shat into civilization. Some people hate the English, but I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are colonized by wankers. We can't even pick a decent culture to be colonized by. We are ruled by effete arseholes. It's a shite state of affairs and all the fresh air in the world will not make any fucking difference.


 
 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2014 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

On the occasion of the scottish independence referendum I was just listening to Horner`s Braveheart for the first time in ages and have to say that I really enjoyed it. Although a bit too long. A problem I have with many Horner albums.

One of my favourite Horner scores (and films). perhaps my favourite!
And counterpoint, I really love the counterpoint (hehe) in Secret Wedding between the strings and oboe!
Exquisite pasage!

(at 3.59'-4.38')

 
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